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Why aren't private communities on PieFed federated?

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  • @povoq@slrpnk.net okay, yes. This is true, once it leaves the local server there are no guarantees.

    However I'd have to ask whether there is an acceptable tradeoff in risk of content exposure.

    After all, even in local private groups, things could get leaked via copy-paste, screenshots, etc. The weakest link is the social element.

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  • At a guess, private piefed communities don't federate because once content federates, you can't control who can see it. All you can do is hope that the remote instance will follow the privacy settings, but you can't enforce them.

    Private lemmy communities don't federate because they don't exist.

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  • Because once it leaves the server there is no guarantee that the remote server understands or even respects the notion that it should be private.

    Lemmy doesn't have private communities yet afaik.

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  • Is that different for Lemmy? If so, why is PieFed's approach to private communities different from Lemmy's?

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  • Ah true! NodeBB doesn't support emoji reactions yet.

    Thanks for reminding me of yet another way we're behind Piefed :muscle:

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  • Emoji reactions are a big one - rather than voting you can apply an emoji, which is a much richer expression.

    Every community can have different settings for who can downvote. Here are the options:

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    If you downvote more than you upvote, pretty soon you can't downvote anymore.
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  • ngl sometimes someone gotta take one for the team 🫡

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  • Thats what I kind of mean. some folks vote on everything. some don't vote on anything. some are very specific and thoughtful in their voting and some have default voting things. I have been both. I don't view voting information as at all useful in a community type of way. Now make it scarce and maybe. Like every day your get one up or down vote that will expire in a week or something. Thing about that kind of thing though is it encourages folks who like to manipulate to make a bunch of accounts. I could totally see cm0002 going through all his accounts to downvote things on lemmy.ml. I just don't think its very useful unless as a feature for accounts locally.

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