However the problem here is that regular people just assume comms are private. We even call them "Private mentions" by default on masto. Obviously people should not assume that, but they do. Education is not a real solution, especially when the name is so misleading.

IMO the UI and UX should match, and both should be geared towards default user assumptions. Only Security pros assume otherwise on these things.

"Individual mentions"

This is a perfectly reasonable point. E2EE is not for everybody or every server.

Honestly, I’m not sure if I’ll allow it in the servers that I run (bandwagon.fm, etc)

Maybe just for myself? Maybe paid accounts only? Probably not for free signups though.

There are valid reasons to enable this, and not to enable this. It must be opt-in for everyone involved.

@jaz @reflex @earth_walker

At the end of the day trust and safety includes safety from instance admins.

All you've done here is demonstrate a failure in leadership.

Moderation is hard.

Moderation tooling for E2EE is hard.

Plenty of other other people can, should, and will take this on. I will not be one of them.

Nothing else to say I guess.

Also referring people to a separate centralized service that cannot be simply moved out of a hostile jurisdiction and is easily blocked is not ideal.

It’s a very different model for communication.

@reflex @jaz @earth_walker

Let me put it another way, I have no intention of operating an unmoderatable community service.

It does not block screenshots, reporting mechanisms will still be valid.

Again, assuming this implementation does not do something weird.

It's an international standard, the concerns you have can be raised, but likely are not valid.

I’ll have to put it here instead

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😂

that's what *you* are doing

so you put the "dictating what we all want" out there. but how dare anyone push back?

it's absolutely fine to get your opinion out there

but you can't fallback to the comment you just made, expecting as if you won't receive any other opinion in response to yours. that's not the way it works

i'm not in charge here. and *you* aren't in charge here. get your opinion out, receive some pushback: welcome to life

i give your troll attempt a... 3/10

nice try troll

keep working at it

remember: the point of trolling is entertainment, so you want to make me feel like i should go get the buttered popcorn

i believe in you. you can do it. be the best troll you can be! 💪 😤

amen

because everyone is an armchair CEO

they have their own personal agenda, and their point of view is "anything that strays from my personal point of view is impure and insincere, somehow. oh, and this entitles me to whine and sometimes even be abusive about it on social media and dictate orders"