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  • julian@activitypub.spaceundefined
    julian@activitypub.space

    @trwnh@mastodon.social sure here are the minutes!

    I was the only member in attendance 😁 The meeting was adjourned with zero action items
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  • trwnh@mastodon.socialundefined
    trwnh@mastodon.social

    @julian sorry for oversleeping today -- any minutes?

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  • julian@activitypub.spaceundefined
    julian@activitypub.space

    Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 18h00 to 19h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held (today) on 5 February 2026.

    Meeting link: https://meet.jit.si/ap-forum-wg

    There is no set agenda for this month's meeting.

    @julian will discuss a new FEP-f15d: Context Relocation and Removal and integration efforts with the Lemmy and Piefed folk. Updates re: FEP-4f05: Soft Deletion and WordPress and Mastodon's efforts to implement
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  • julian@activitypub.spaceundefined
    julian@activitypub.space

    @silverpill@mitra.social said in Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting:
    > It's not possible to sign a dynamic object, because some of its properties are constantly changing (items, totalItems and others). This means collections need to be always server-managed. Therefore, clients shouldn't be allowed to directly create, update or delete them.

    Mmm, signing doesn't guarantee data correctness, it only guarantees that the data presented is correct as of sending, per the sender's point of view.

    Just like how signing a Create(Note) only guarantees that the note's data is what it is at the time of the Create, a Move(Context) only guarantees the validity of the context's data at the time of the Move.

    That said, this FEP doesn't have you including the entire object in, just the URI, so this is moot........ no?

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  • julian@activitypub.spaceundefined
    julian@activitypub.space

    Sorry it took so long to respond to this —

    Re: assumption of a context belonging to one audience
    > Where, in Lemmy? Even if some implementations don't support cross-posting I don't see a reason to block it at the protocol level.

    This FEP doesn't block cross-posting at the protocol level. Move just explicitly states that a context was Removed from one and Added to another. You could achieve this just fine with Remove followed by Add, but this just reduces it down to a single activity and eliminates any side-effects (e.g. a Remove without corresponding Add might mean content is purged from the db)

    So in theory, a context can belong to multiple audiences, and it can be moved from one to another, or removed from one.

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  • silverpill@mitra.socialundefined
    silverpill@mitra.social

    Collections are dynamic objects because they can be paginated and filtered. It's not possible to sign a dynamic object, because some of its properties are constantly changing (items, totalItems and others). This means collections need to be always server-managed. Therefore, clients shouldn't be allowed to directly create, update or delete them.

    I think the proposed Move activity is an obfuscated Update because it changes the collection directly.

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  • silverpill@mitra.socialundefined
    silverpill@mitra.social

    >the assumption is already there

    Where, in Lemmy? Even if some implementations don't support cross-posting I don't see a reason to block it at the protocol level.

    And Update is simpler, that's one activity instead of two (Move and Remove).

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  • julian@activitypub.spaceundefined
    julian@activitypub.space

    silverpill@mitra.social said in Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting:
    > 2. Treating collections (dynamic views) as static objects that can be moved, deleted etc is not compatible with client-side signing.

    You mentioned this before, but I am not sure what you are referring to. Do you mind elaborating?

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    Destroying Autocracy – December 04, 2025

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    Destroying Autocracy – December 04, 2025Welcome to this week’s “Destroying Autocracy”.It’s your source for curated news affecting democracy in the cyber arena with a focus on protecting it. That necessitates an opinionated Butlerian jihad against big tech as well as evangelizing for open-source and the Fediverse. Since big media’s journalism wing is flailing and failing in its core duty to democracy, this is also a collection of alternative reporting on the eternal battle between autocracy and democracy. We also cover the cybersecurity world. You can’t be free without safety and privacy.FYI, my opinions will be in bold. And will often involve cursing. Because humans. Especially tech bros. And fascists. Fuck ’em.The Programmer’s Fulcrum is the future (and smaller) home for a fusion of Symfony Station and Battalion. 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  • heathenstorm@mastodon.socialundefined

    Late night #activitypub interop hacking.

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    @heathenstorm right, so Pixelfed isn't responding to your configuration change (which no one else will know about unless you explicitly tell them)I recall Pixelfed had some command to clear its cache of config, it's in like the CLI commands section of the docs.
  • firekeeper@gts.b0nfire.xyzundefined

    I'm not affiliated with #bonfiresocial, but I like what they're doing!

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    I'm not affiliated with #bonfiresocial, but I like what they're doing! Give them a look!#activitypub #socialnetworks
  • box464@mastodon.socialundefined

    I have a Mastodon List of "Group Accounts", which makes for a good timeline of discussions around specific topics.

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    @julian @box464 There's actually already an Android app that allows all this: Raccoon for Friendica (which actually also works for Mastodon).Raccoon for Friendica is a rather unique app, one I'm very fond of, because it perfectly illustrates how the best ideas come from the "contamination" of different environments. Here's an article about Raccoon that should be updated, which I wrote a few weeks after the app's beta release (launched in late August 2024)Raccoon for Friendica was developed by @akesiseli after he had already developed an Android client for Lemmy (Raccoon for Lemmy).When he focused on Friendica, he faced the problem of how to translate Friendica's ability to display group conversations into an app (they're quite visible on Friendica's web interface, though they don't have the clearest interface possible like Lemmy's or forum platforms like NodeBB and Discourse). He ported the "topic view" feature already present in Lemmy's apps to Friendica!Since Raccoon is an app that also works with Mastodon, @akesiseli attempted to "force" Mastodon to have the same interface, and after a few attempts, he succeeded perfectly.Raccoon for Friendica still has a few imperfections (search isn't 100% functional, it still doesn't handle resharing with quoting, and other minor glitches, and feed capture is still a bit slow compared to Tusky and Fedilab), but despite being just over a year old, it's a decidedly mature app. Most importantly, it offers group viewing features that no other app offers. And—trust me!—group viewing isn't the only new feature Raccoon has brought to a social media client!I hope the app's development continues well, although I'm a little concerned: the developer is a bit disappointed that almost no one uses his app... But this is mostly due to the fact that the app has a name that appeals to Friendica users (who are very few) and that even the most established apps for Mastodon suffer from competition from an "official" app!