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Mastodon has a new plan to make money: Hosting and support services for the open social web

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    I honestly would've preferred a referral program where you could get a pre-configured vps at your chosen vps provider (where the end user can choose from vps providers such as Hetzner, Glesys and so on), and that the referrer (mastodon, friendica, piefed, lemmy or mbin) gets a small cut out of every monthly payment.
    Though I'm not sure how to make that an intriguing deal for the vps providers.

    Centralizing the decentralized web at one provider sounds counter productive.

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      I hope they don't go open core.

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        I remember when I wanted Mozilla to do that, since they had the organizational might, the money, and it fit perfectly with their mission when they created mozilla.social. On the one hand, it seems slightly less ideal to have the same organization that develops mastodon also providing hosting for it. On the other hand, they probably have a better chance of doing it well.

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          I wish government organisations would host their own Mastodon servers. Get off Twitter.

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            I hope they don't go open core.

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            The code is AGPL. They can't do open core.

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            • quacksalber@sh.itjust.worksundefined quacksalber@sh.itjust.works

              I think that sounds like a really good idea, if you want to get corporate- and government hosted instances on board. What keeps most of them away from free software is that they can't write a contract with anyone with clear boundaries and guarantees. If Mastodon offers these types of contracts, it would help the adoption rate.

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              What keeps most of them away from free software is that they can’t write a contract with anyone with clear boundaries and guarantees.

              They can. There are plenty of companies offering Mastodon hosting.

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              • Flamekebabundefined Flamekebab

                I wish government organisations would host their own Mastodon servers. Get off Twitter.

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                In some countries, corporations and government are basically the same entity. Free countries distinguish between them in a meaningful sense.

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                  The code is AGPL. They can't do open core.

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                  TIL GNU Affero General Public License it a flavor that closes loopholes that were used to extend open software without actually open sourcing your contributions.

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                  • henfredemars@infosec.pubundefined henfredemars@infosec.pub

                    In some countries, corporations and government are basically the same entity. Free countries distinguish between them in a meaningful sense.

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                    Even then, would rather my government contract out Mastodon hosting to a company based here in the UK than to use the American Hosted and moderated Elon tool.

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                      It's a good approach, it's exactly how NodeBB operates as well.

                      We have a FOSS software and we sell managed services for those who don't have the technical know-how.

                      Win-win.

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                        Crakila Can you please try again with the latest develop commit? I updated the blocking logic to handle both activity retrieval and sending. Prior to this, it was only checking the domain on incoming activities.

                        I don't know whether this would explain why the posts from fairy.id still show up for you, but it's worth a shot.

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                        FWIW deleting an account won't block the user from coming back. If you navigate back to their profile (via direct link or clicked link, or if they're mentioned, etc.) NodeBB will just pull their account info in again.

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                      • julianundefined
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                        That's a really good question! It might be that posts are still leaking through due to some other reason (maybe relays, maybe something else).

                        I'll have to audit the instance deny-list code and double check.

                        As for blocking individual users, there is no way to do this instance-wide yet. However that is a good idea, I will look into implementing this.

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                      • julianundefined
                        julian

                        It's a good approach, it's exactly how NodeBB operates as well.

                        We have a FOSS software and we sell managed services for those who don't have the technical know-how.

                        Win-win.

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                        Even then, would rather my government contract out Mastodon hosting to a company based here in the UK than to use the American Hosted and moderated Elon tool.

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                      • henfredemars@infosec.pubundefined
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                        TIL GNU Affero General Public License it a flavor that closes loopholes that were used to extend open software without actually open sourcing your contributions.

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                      • henfredemars@infosec.pubundefined
                        henfredemars@infosec.pub

                        In some countries, corporations and government are basically the same entity. Free countries distinguish between them in a meaningful sense.

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                      • rglullis@communick.newsundefined
                        rglullis@communick.news

                        What keeps most of them away from free software is that they can’t write a contract with anyone with clear boundaries and guarantees.

                        They can. There are plenty of companies offering Mastodon hosting.

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