What one person wants from an alternative to a Twitter:
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What one person wants from an alternative to a Twitter:
• choice of home-feed algorithm,
• editable posts,
• ability to moderate replies -
What one person wants from an alternative to a Twitter:
• choice of home-feed algorithm,
• editable posts,
• ability to moderate repliesmastodon?
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mastodon?
Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.
Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.
But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)
And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.
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Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.
Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.
But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)
And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.
@reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.
Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.
Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.
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@reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.
Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.
Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.
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Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.
Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.
But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)
And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.
@reiver @ezeno789 The closest thing to what he is describing is @threads, but the ability to moderate replies comes at the cost of turning #Fediverse sharing off (at least for some posts).
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@reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.
Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.
Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.
@evan @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 That is too bad, because it would also allow the spontaneous threads we participate in to become something more like curated essays or conversations. But maybe that is too far from the central function of Mastodon as it exists today. Feature creep is not good.
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@evan @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 That is too bad, because it would also allow the spontaneous threads we participate in to become something more like curated essays or conversations. But maybe that is too far from the central function of Mastodon as it exists today. Feature creep is not good.
@meltedcheese @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 or maybe when someone posts some racist shit in your replies, you can just remove it.
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@reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.
Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.
Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.
@evan @reiver @ezeno789 I don't think that would help. The reply would still be out there. Just not in that list. But the protocol doesn't depend on that list. For this to work you'd have to have a signal to all servers, that have received the reply post, to remove that message from the thread. That would probably be a another FEP. At least that is how I understand it.
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Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.
Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.
But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)
And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.
@reiver @ezeno789 About algo choices, it's very interesting the work of @cryptadamist with Fedialgo: https://github.com/michelcrypt4d4mus/fedialgo_demo_app_foryoufeed
Worth looking into it IMO.
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@evan @reiver @ezeno789 I don't think that would help. The reply would still be out there. Just not in that list. But the protocol doesn't depend on that list. For this to work you'd have to have a signal to all servers, that have received the reply post, to remove that message from the thread. That would probably be a another FEP. At least that is how I understand it.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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RE: https://blog.fabiomanganiello.com/article/Federated-replies-and-reactions-in-Madblog
Madblog by @fabio is really coming along!
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@douwe@waag.social The protocol itself hasn't changed radically in the last 18 months. If you want to understand ActivityPub and ATProto's similarities and differences, you can't find a better analysis than Christine's. She is one of my co-authors on ActivityPub, and she really dug deep into both protocols.
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@evan that is indeed a while ago. As far as I understood ATproto has made significant improvements for federation since...
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@douwe This article by @danabra.mov is pretty helpful: https://overreacted.io/open-social/
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@douwe@waag.social Christine Lemmer-Webber did a great analysis a while ago:
https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
It's a great place to start.
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Trying to better understand ATproto and Activitypub similarities and differences.
People here with recent reading/listening/watch tips?
#fediverse #eurosky #bluesky #activitypub #ATProto #Mastodon
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definitely not a fan of this. tbh, there should just not be a global feed that new accounts see, because they see a lot of stuff they don't understand or know the community norms for, and that leads to bad engagement.
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There is the Web Share API, and the future Web Share Targets API, but I think we could also align Web Share with FedCM and be able to say "I want to share to this type of application"
