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Bridging has been a bit slower than usual, on and off, for the last few days.

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  • Bridging has been a bit slower than usual, on and off, for the last few days. Apologies all! It should be mostly back to normal now, we’ve put some workarounds in place, and we expect to have a more permanent fix within a day or two. Sorry for the trouble, thank you for your patience with us!

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  • Polls are rendering!

    screenshot of the latest emoji poll rendered on the ktistec server

    I'm working to get all of the little visual elements available across the Fediverse to render in a usable way on Ktistec. When released, users will also be able to vote on polls.

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  • @julian i'd say the confusion is primarily that we've shifted topic around several different things and i'm still not sure which is the intended topic of the discussion :x

    - deleting posts that are in a thread
    - removing posts from a thread
    - implications for downstream posts in a thread when some ancestor in the reply chain is deleted/removed
    - deleting a thread that is in a forum
    - removing a thread from a forum
    - moving a thread to the "uncategorized" forum
    - ...?

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  • @julian if the intent is to signal what happens when nodebb moves a thread to "uncategorized", then i think the simplest thing is for nodebb to treat "uncategorized" as a forum in itself, still. you already assign them an id of -1, so you are in effect treating the "uncategorized" category as a category still.

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  • @julian the confusing thing to me, though, is that both Delete and Remove already don't imply anything about posts in the thread if the thread is deleted/removed from the forum.

    by default, if you Delete a thread, the forum might still have a broken link to the now-deleted thread, and the posts also have broken links to the thread.

    by default, if you Remove a thread from the forum, the posts still exist within the thread.

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  • trwnh@mastodon.social specifically however, is that you're not deleting the context. Just removing it.

    NodeBB has the concept of a context not belonging to an audience (the "uncategorized" pseudo category.) in those specific situations, contexts would be removed from the audience, not deleted.

    Lemmy and Piefed don't have these concepts, so they simply delete them. So therein lies some of the confusion I believe.

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  • @julian like removing a whole thread from the forum? Remove(object=thread, target=forum)? this seems like something altogether different than removing posts from a thread.

    removing threads from a forum is possible but if the thread is owned by the forum then the forum can also delete them.

    the part that differs between impls is whether Delete(thing that is a context) should do anything to objects where context = the Delete.object, right? i think it makes the most sense to just orphan them.

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    @julian i'd say the confusion is primarily that we've shifted topic around several different things and i'm still not sure which is the intended topic of the discussion :x- deleting posts that are in a thread- removing posts from a thread- implications for downstream posts in a thread when some ancestor in the reply chain is deleted/removed- deleting a thread that is in a forum- removing a thread from a forum- moving a thread to the "uncategorized" forum- ...?
  • @evan hey, could this get merged?

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    @evan there's also an update on this topic here: https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-trust-and-safety/issues/97#issuecomment-3609426922So progress is happening. I'm trying to follow up with Mastodon on their implementation of that FEP draft, and I've added it to the agenda for T&S next month, so hopefully gaining implementers after that.I also added in how I made link previews in the Mastodon moderation tools look in 4.5, if implementers need some ideas for end-users