The Fediverse and WordPress Should Be Better Friends, with Evan Prodromou
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Evan Prodromou is often called “The father of the Fediverse”. It's amazing how much overlap there is between the aims of WordPress and Fediverse. These two communities should work together more! The Fediverse consists of independent social networking platforms including Mastodon (micro-blogging), PeerTube (videos), Pixelfed (images) and more.
Just like WordPress, most of the Fediverse runs on open source code. And just like WordPress, you get to create content that isn't swallowed by corporate algorithms. And you can build successful business or communities on your platforms that you own control.
We talk with Evan about the origins and evolution of the Fediverse. Evan has played a key role in building several early Fediverse sites such as Wikitravel, Identi.ca, and StatusNet. He also helped to develop Activity Pub which the key protocol that enables Fediverse to talk to each other.
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Evan Prodromou is often called “The father of the Fediverse”. It's amazing how much overlap there is between the aims of WordPress and Fediverse. These two communities should work together more! The Fediverse consists of independent social networking platforms including Mastodon (micro-blogging), PeerTube (videos), Pixelfed (images) and more.
Just like WordPress, most of the Fediverse runs on open source code. And just like WordPress, you get to create content that isn't swallowed by corporate algorithms. And you can build successful business or communities on your platforms that you own control.
We talk with Evan about the origins and evolution of the Fediverse. Evan has played a key role in building several early Fediverse sites such as Wikitravel, Identi.ca, and StatusNet. He also helped to develop Activity Pub which the key protocol that enables Fediverse to talk to each other.
I think proposals like Bridgy Fed and Minds.com are better, bridges run by independent groups, instead of changes being forced onto the underlying engine. When the latter is done, devs need to make changes based on the smallest common denominator, slowing or even halting individual development of environments. Bridges at least are developed adjacent to multiple environments instead of having to change fundamentals.
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I think proposals like Bridgy Fed and Minds.com are better, bridges run by independent groups, instead of changes being forced onto the underlying engine. When the latter is done, devs need to make changes based on the smallest common denominator, slowing or even halting individual development of environments. Bridges at least are developed adjacent to multiple environments instead of having to change fundamentals.
auster@thebrainbin.org may I ask you to expand in what you mean by "underlying engine"?
If you're talking about ActivityPub then it's a open standard which isn't beholden to any one organization. It's like saying HTML is bad because websites are all forced to use it as the underlying engine.
I personally feel that the technical and mental overhead of maintaining a bridge is much worse than the overhead of a slowly changing standard. What if there are bridges for 20 different protocols, 200? When does it get unweildy?
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auster@thebrainbin.org may I ask you to expand in what you mean by "underlying engine"?
If you're talking about ActivityPub then it's a open standard which isn't beholden to any one organization. It's like saying HTML is bad because websites are all forced to use it as the underlying engine.
I personally feel that the technical and mental overhead of maintaining a bridge is much worse than the overhead of a slowly changing standard. What if there are bridges for 20 different protocols, 200? When does it get unweildy?
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I think proposals like Bridgy Fed and Minds.com are better, bridges run by independent groups, instead of changes being forced onto the underlying engine. When the latter is done, devs need to make changes based on the smallest common denominator, slowing or even halting individual development of environments. Bridges at least are developed adjacent to multiple environments instead of having to change fundamentals.
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Evan Prodromou is often called “The father of the Fediverse”. It's amazing how much overlap there is between the aims of WordPress and Fediverse. These two communities should work together more! The Fediverse consists of independent social networking platforms including Mastodon (micro-blogging), PeerTube (videos), Pixelfed (images) and more.
Just like WordPress, most of the Fediverse runs on open source code. And just like WordPress, you get to create content that isn't swallowed by corporate algorithms. And you can build successful business or communities on your platforms that you own control.
We talk with Evan about the origins and evolution of the Fediverse. Evan has played a key role in building several early Fediverse sites such as Wikitravel, Identi.ca, and StatusNet. He also helped to develop Activity Pub which the key protocol that enables Fediverse to talk to each other.
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There is, but I am not sold on giving up entirely on the idea simply because disparate communities might not want to talk to another.
I agree that treading lightly is paramount, but the benefits of cross-community interaction could very much be worth it!
One thing is for sure: making this an opt-out is not the way forward.
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Good to know, thanks! Also, good idea on the opt-out.
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I think you may be overestating the amount of crossposts that happen for the idea that it would somehow cause 'monoculturalism'
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This kinda erodes cultural differences between different communities though. Different communities may have very different approaches on how to talk about a post. I feel like this approach just leads to monoculturism.
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What if a post was its own separate thing, detached from the communities. You then "attach" the post to one or more communities.
When a user comments on a post, the comment "comes from community xyz" but all comments are attached to the post not the community.
Lemmy applications can choose to filter comments from one or more communities or show them all.
