PieFed 1.6 is released - pronouns, private communities, quote posts and much more

[julian@activitypub.space]

Testing custom emoji :face_with_rolling_eyes: :sweat_smile:

Cool news about private communities! I'd love to unlock inter-compatibility between instances so that can finally be federated... lots to do in between then and now.

Hopefully we can work together on that soon?

[rimu@piefed.social]

I couldn't think of a way to federate privately, when we don't know which software is at the other end. In the current political environment there are going to be groups of people who simply can't take the risk.

For example with mastodon's followers-only notes - that only gives some privacy because there is massive social pressure on any fedi implementation that doesn't follow the gentleman's agreement we have to hide those notes. That fails when implementations have bugs, are under the control of ICE, or whatever.

It's tricky! Happy to bounce ideas around on it sometime. Maybe encryption...

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

mmmm. private communities are nice but without federation it means they have to cajole anyone they want to join to make an account on a particular server.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

heck if I had an instance I would limit new accounts to not posting for a week or a month if I could. I don't get people feeling the need to start posting like crazy.

[skavau@piefed.social]

User intake would drop through the floor at that point. It's fine to make a welcome post or a post in a community you're interested in, but 3+ posts in a single first day is sus as hell - and Lemmy's ongoing problem here prompted this.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

I woul really prefer people I block to not see my stuff as if they blocked me so that they could not vote. I don't block people needlessly but if I do I sorta want them out of my federated life.

[skavau@piefed.social]

That has serious down-the-line consequences though.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

yeah I think its totally a personality thing so for me its foreign to want to engage before getting the lay of the land. Im not sure how long before I started posting on kbin. Now im a hypocrite to because the thing is that once you have been on the federation then it would get quite annoying if I moved to a new account for new hotness or maybe for censorship reasons and then could not post because I would not think of it as a new place but my account would be a newbie account. So yeah my thing was more like about feeling. I could do 24 hours standing on my head though :)

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

yeah its my pie in the sky want. I know its not easy but since two people can block each other I know its not impossible either.

[skavau@piefed.social]

I meant people will block to echochamber themselves

https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

This system exists on Reddit, and this is an example of how it can be gamed.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

Oh thats not the same. Its stops replies. I want it to be completely bilateral. I don't see their posts or replies and they don't see mine. It only stops replies because they would not see something to reply to. It would effectively make it so if someone blocks someone it effectively shadow blocks them from that person like they blocked them. Mutually assure blockstruction.

[prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net]

Looks like a great update. Very cool that communities have the granular ability to disable down votes.

[skavau@piefed.social]

Yes, Reddit also blocks visibility too. You would see [unavailable] if someone has blocked you on Reddit. This can cause problems highlighted in that post.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

ok because it sounded like it blocked replies which sounded like they still saw the content. I don't even see how they would make a reply to something they can't see. maybe im not getting the article. EDITED - you know I should say probably moderaters should not have content of their communities blocked to them but yeah now it sounds real complicated as you would need the shadow block flag but also some sort of mod override flag for posts to their community. actually now that I say it, it does not feel as bad as I thought at first. Still. more complication.

[skavau@piefed.social]

They wouldn't see posts by users that have blocked them, but the problem is that a malicious account could block people who would call them out and then post misinformation, safe in the knowledge that anyone who might challenge them are blocked.

[rimu@piefed.social]

Yes. The intended use-case is something like a community group that runs their own instance, or an admin team coordinating among themselves. Those people are going to be on the same instance.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

Yeah sorry I edited quickly but you are responding quickly. The issue I see is the mods. Those are formal positions. I don't really see a problem with the blocking of people who are good at calling out. I guess when I envisioned it I just assumed mods could always see an admin level of a community that would be everything. Even stuff other mods removed.

[otter@lemmy.ca]

Admins can sticky a post on the home page, not just mods in their communities

Nice!

We've been using the announcement field, but that doesn't show up for people on apps. This should be better :)

Swapped it out now: https://piefed.ca/

[otter@lemmy.ca]

Odd, I can only see the pinned posts when signed in @rimu@piefed.social

Right now we have two pinned posts, one from lemmy.ca and one from a local only piefed.ca community. Both show up nicely when signed in, neither show up when signed out

[die4ever@retrolemmy.com]

probably a whitelist of instances (by hostname) is the only way? each community has its own whitelist set by its mods?