So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
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@mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.
@db0@hachyderm.io said in So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?:
> For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone,Wait, doesn't that mean you should see it? If a user on the Mastodon server is following the category then they should receive a copy of everything.
In fact it's that they shove every boost into the home feed that is the problem...
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@julian Yes, but if you don't follow the category, you don't see replies to other people in the same post.
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The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can't really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.
I dunno, look at all that the Musk does to X (or better yet, don't) but then people remain stuck on that platform, held hostage by the network effect or whatever other reason. Enshittification has progressed far enough that Lemmy is not well regarded on Reddit, a fact enhanced by posts talking about it being removed. People may be cutting back on Reddit, but they do not seem to be bringing those discussions here. Perhaps people are discoursing more IRL rather than social media.
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I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the "threadiverse" (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).
The microblogging fediverse isn't dying, I scroll through it every day, it's one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn't be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.
The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era...
Same. Mastodon is pretty good and useful. Lemmy is pretty meh.
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@rupdecat @heiseonline @fediverse
I don't understand: This is a year-to-year comparison by month.
I think they mean comparing Jan 2023 with Jan 2024 and Jan 2025. Then seperately Feb 2023 with Feb 2024 and Feb 2025. Etc.
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As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don't post to Lemmy/Piefed - it's probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. :)
They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
Iirc. you'll see comments towards the OP only (i.e. root comments, and replies to the OP explicitly). You will also not see comments non-OP microbloggers will send towards threadiverse users on other instances than where the community is in.
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They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software
I didn't realize—that's pretty cool!
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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.@Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse
I feel like there's some kind of a ripple going through the Fediverse. Here's my answer from a week ago
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
Okay, that's fair. The hard requirement for a microblog user to have to follow the community is often too high a barrier (if only because it's not immediately apparent that this needs be done)
That said, Mastodon gets around patchy federation with mention spamming. Threadiverse gets around this with the distributor model (the community itself).
I don't know how to reconcile this from a technical perspective... yet.
Also @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com this is in response to you as well.
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I honestly feel if the two paradigms did a little bit of effort on interoperation, we could figure this out. But all sides of this atm are like "the other side is doing it wrong" and refusing to look at this.
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I honestly feel if the two paradigms did a little bit of effort on interoperation, we could figure this out. But all sides of this atm are like "the other side is doing it wrong" and refusing to look at this.
You're absolutely correct! (Great, now I sound like ChatGPT)
That said I think that's where implementations like NodeBB and Mbin can apply a bit of pressure and act as intermediaries... we want federation to work well too, and we have to straddle both federation styles!
That gives a somewhat unique perspective on problems and solutions.
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@Edent@mastodon.social Unfortunately, there's no travel bursary—@COSCUP@floss.social is a free, volunteer-run event. That said, if you need a visa to enter Taiwan, COSCUP can provide an official invitation letter to support your application.
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@hongminhee @COSCUP
If there's any kind of travel bursary, I'd be delighted to speak.
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Update: we've decided to go ahead and submit the CFP to @COSCUP@floss.social 2026. The track will be called Fediverse & Social Web—think FOSDEM's Social Web devroom, but in Taipei. #COSCUP is free to attend, like FOSDEM.
If the track is accepted, would you be interested in coming to Taipei (Aug 8–9) to give a talk?
(Boosts appreciated!)
https://hollo.social/@hongminhee/019ca8b2-ecca-7150-a237-37f35de45401
#fedidev #fediverse #SocialWeb #ActivityPub
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@julian Ahh, thanks Julian! That makes sense. That’s pretty much the same guidance I got from Claude and ChatGPT too. If I go for Apple at some point, I won’t be able to just wrap the site and call it a day. I’d need to build out more native functionality, and I’m not going to pretend I fully understand that path yet haha.
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@revstanton@mastodon.social not sure, but happy to be proven wrong.
PWAs are welcome on the fediverse (I don't think anyone can stop you lol)
I think Play Store there's a way in, but Apple is famously against it.
In fact, your push notifications are probably using the web push API. Guess who single handedly held back adoption? Apple.
They only allowed it in 2023.
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@julian Also I didn't answer the question fully. I'm doing this in phases. I started with PWA as this is all still very early, and I am trying to prove people want to use the app. I don't have the full plan mapped out but know I would need to make changes for the Apple review if I go that route.
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@julian PWA's aren't allowed in the fediverse or the app store? This is news to me but that isn't surprising. I asked Claude options for getting to the app store and it recommended PWA.
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@revstanton@mastodon.social what's the plan to get it in the app store?
Thought PWAs were famously not allowed.
