If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?
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@tom I'm slowly working on one, but it's completely unpaid work.
@thisismissem is that related to the stuff you were doing w/ PDSes a few weeks ago or are those separate projects?
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@tom check if this one I wrote can be of use:
https://github.com/mariusor/oni
PS: Any feedback about setting it up and configuring it for your use case will be appreciated, either here, or on github/mailing list.
mariusor@metalhead.club is there a public instance available?
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If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?
@tom I see others are pointing you in a similar direction, but funnily enough I tinkered with Social Web's ap-component test instance this afternoon!
Look at the sample client "acct-handler", too. That's what I tried today.
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@thisismissem is that related to the stuff you were doing w/ PDSes a few weeks ago or are those separate projects?
@tom yeah, activitypds is the research project name, but there's a bunch of upstream work in Fedify to enable C2S in Fedify, and then also to enable reusing the Fedify vocabularies (they take JSON-LD and convert into classes that Fedify understands, and handles serialisation to JSON-LD)
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@tom yeah, activitypds is the research project name, but there's a bunch of upstream work in Fedify to enable C2S in Fedify, and then also to enable reusing the Fedify vocabularies (they take JSON-LD and convert into classes that Fedify understands, and handles serialisation to JSON-LD)
@tom basically the things I'm trying to solve in ActivityPDS are:
- an OAuth profile (based on AT Proto's OAuth profile)
- webfinger & DIDs & Handles
- what should a "PDS" do in the context of ActivityPub C2S, how much logic does it implement, or is it just a simple pipe? -
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If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?
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@evan oh yeah this should be perfect
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@evan oh yeah this should be perfect
@tom I can also send you an invite code.
There's a chapter on the social API in the ActivityPub book.
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@tom I see others are pointing you in a similar direction, but funnily enough I tinkered with Social Web's ap-component test instance this afternoon!
Look at the sample client "acct-handler", too. That's what I tried today.
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@tom I can also send you an invite code.
There's a chapter on the social API in the ActivityPub book.
@evan I signed up to get notified for the print edition a few months ago, still prefer actually holding physical books haha
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@evan I signed up to get notified for the print edition a few months ago, still prefer actually holding physical books haha
@tom OK!
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@mariusor I got it running w/o many issues (maybe I missed it but I didn't see any wiki pages on building Box? I got that working as well regardless)
Is there an active issue w/ fetching oni content in Mastodon? I can't seem to grab my user or any statuses from my server or from activitypub.academy. I also tried fetching your posts (because it sounded like it at least worked last year, https://metalhead.club/@mariusor/113708953874760675) but that didn't work either so maybe I'm missing something.
@tom I basically follow actors and that's how seeing posts by others in your /inbox works.
The frontend loads stuff directly through JavaScript fetch and needs all the mechanisms of that to work (and I imagine what you see might be things failing to load due to CORS rules being too restrictive on remote Mastodon instances)
I am not aware of any issues with receiving activities though, and in this process the objects themselves should be fully dereferenced to local copies.
I'll add a note about BOX compilation. Thanx.
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@tom I basically follow actors and that's how seeing posts by others in your /inbox works.
The frontend loads stuff directly through JavaScript fetch and needs all the mechanisms of that to work (and I imagine what you see might be things failing to load due to CORS rules being too restrictive on remote Mastodon instances)
I am not aware of any issues with receiving activities though, and in this process the objects themselves should be fully dereferenced to local copies.
I'll add a note about BOX compilation. Thanx.
@tom looking at the post of mine you linked, I realize you're probably thinking of regular object discovery, and there isn't any mechanism for it yet, or for viewing remote objects that haven't reached your inbox.
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@julian yes, two of them:
https://rattlehead.bruta.link < where a bot posts daily metal releases scraped from the internet
https://marius.federated.id < where I write a bit about stuff and play with more expressive ActivityPub objects.
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@tom looking at the post of mine you linked, I realize you're probably thinking of regular object discovery, and there isn't any mechanism for it yet, or for viewing remote objects that haven't reached your inbox.
@mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni
I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)
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@mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni
I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)
@mariusor actually nevermind ignore me, searching for your federated id user seems to work so I must have something wrong with my network configuration, I'll do some debugging later
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@mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni
I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)
@tom I understand.
Indeed in the past two/three weeks I must have deployed something (or Mastodon made some changes) that regular objects posted by ONI aren't findable any more. The problem is that I don't have a development setup for mastodon on which to test what the problem is. :(
However the actors should still be available.
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@mariusor actually nevermind ignore me, searching for your federated id user seems to work so I must have something wrong with my network configuration, I'll do some debugging later
@tom a quick check list for you:
1. Check if the actor is publicly accessible from the internet.
2. Check if it has a RSA private/public key.
3. Check that if you have a proxy in front of ONI it doesn't mangle Accept/Vary/Content-Type headers.
4. Check that if you have a proxy the `/.well-known/webfinger` route is handled by ONI. (your proxy should forward all routes to ONI directly as a start)
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@tom a quick check list for you:
1. Check if the actor is publicly accessible from the internet.
2. Check if it has a RSA private/public key.
3. Check that if you have a proxy in front of ONI it doesn't mangle Accept/Vary/Content-Type headers.
4. Check that if you have a proxy the `/.well-known/webfinger` route is handled by ONI. (your proxy should forward all routes to ONI directly as a start)
mariusor@metalhead.club Can you use ActivityPub.academy? There is a logger built in so you can see the activities coming and going. It might help you debug why the ONI activities aren't being processed.
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@dtm No problem!
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@dtm Not sure how up-to-date this is, but the documentation says:
"preview cards will not be refetched unless the link is reposted after 2 weeks from last time"
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@julian Thanks, this all looks very helpful :)
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@glocq@mathstodon.xyz I really found this helpful:
https://seb.jambor.dev/posts/understanding-activitypub/
And testing stuff against activitypub.academy 👍
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Any resources on how to make an #ActivityPub application? There's the specification, which is certainly informative, but are there things like templates, tutorials...?
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The beauty of #ActivityPub
Yes, Loops federates, and admins can enable any remote instance video posts to appear in local follower feeds AND you can even include them in the For You page ✨
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@cyberlyra I'm sorry, I am not involved with Mastodon's team, or this request. But I do hope that after we speak out enough, this will get the prioritization it deserves, for the sake of fediverse's diversity.
