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  • oce@jlai.lu oce@jlai.lu

    I think he explained the trans related instances were not blocked because trans but because their admins did not moderate the calls for violence he wanted to filter.

    yarrmatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    #61

    Blahaj does remove calls to violence imo. He had additional petty reasons like how blahaj gave A.N. an endorsement saying "well-moderated" after the previous A.N. admin in question was no longer an admin.

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    • fonix232@fedia.io fonix232@fedia.io

      Centrists ARE usually clueless enough to blend things together as such...

      a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
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      Centrists are almost always right wingers who try and avoid the right wing label.

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      • solrac@lemmy.world solrac@lemmy.world

        You know, I think this whole situation could've been boiled down to just make an instance and defederate, instead we got the FediKaren of the year with their silly obscured list and petty shoddy ahh ddos script.

        zomg@piefed.world
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        #63

        Just say ass, you can curse on the internet

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        • grue@lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world

          To be fair, it's not as if it supports languages other than fucking Javascript anyway, so it mostly doesn't matter.

          Edit: I don't want to split hairs about modules or json or whatever; I just want to be salty about how we could've had Scheme or Python in the browser.

          victorz@lemmy.world
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          #64

          The type attribute is not only to specify the language. It's like one case out of several. It definitely matters in those contexts where you want to do the other things you can do with the type attribute.

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          • oce@jlai.lu oce@jlai.lu

            I could understand his initial intention of having some kind of nsfw filter for radical opinions, even though the implementation was questionable. And I was honestly sad about the shit storm that hit him. Too many people here pretend to be more respectful and empathetic than average, but will happily dogpile to get a piece of a person given the right momentum.
            But this ddos code is hard to defend, it goes against his own initial intention. He should have walked away before reaching this point.
            Can we avoid adding new events to this sad chain of events now?

            azzu@leminal.space
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            #65

            it goes against his own initial intention

            It goes against his initial stated intention.

            Just because he said something doesn't mean it's the truth. The way he acted about it initially and the way he acts now makes it blatantly obvious that his actual initial intentions were always nefarious, and he simply lied about his intentions to get sympathy like you're giving him.

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            • quokka@quokk.au quokka@quokk.au

              Bye

              You crazies won and proved me wrong. The fediverse isn’t worth saving after all.

              Over the course of the last several days, I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance’s top admin. This is unacceptable for all of the reasons in the world, and while I won’t give you the personal satisfaction of having won, you’ve definitely proven me wrong about the fediverse being something that even can be saved from itself.

              Even people around here I’d interacted with positively for years and had grown to respect because they seemed level headed and above the immature and sociopathic bullshit that dominates this platform showed their true selves. That completely shattered any and all illusions I had that this place has a hidden core of users that I should try to make more visible amongst all the rage, rage baiting, propaganda, harassment, rumor mongering, trolls, conspiracies, purity testing, and violent rhetoric.

              Like many of the rational people before me who called this place home, I’m done with this place.

              I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren’t me actually want a place that’s not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.

              Then you have entire instances whose admins call for the death of others, harass other users, and lead harassment, brigading, and DARVO campaigns against those who dare call out their bullshit or decide to disassociate themselves and their work from them.

              Lemmy.World was so close to doing the right thing after instance-that-will-not-be named’s admins were calling for the death of LW’s admins while spreading rumours and labeling others in such a way that painted them as targets for murder. All of that, mind you, with absoultey no evidence other than specuation and their own cooked-up conspiracies about modlog actions or taking and twisting things wildly out of context to fit their made-up narratives so they had someone to say they ‘caught’ and should be killed.

              .world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.

              “We have to worry about the optics or the politics of it.” they probably said.

              Bullshit.

              I’m one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse. If I can stand up for what’s right and deal with the blowback, so can you.

              Fuck lemmy world’s admin team for condoning that behavior and letting the human skidmark db0 DARVO his way out of the situation while brigading with his army of malcontents whom he wields like a cult leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, and you all continue to allow him to get away with it.

              Nah, fuck this whole place. I’ve let too many things fall by the wayside IRL because of dealing with all this fediverse bullshit and trying to give it the slightest bit of polish both visually and atmospherically. Mythbusters may have proven that you can, in fact, polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it’s still a shiny ball of shit.

              For the few people left who didn’t turn out to be psychotic, I’ll think of you from time to time when recalling something you’ve posted or commented that genuinely made me laugh, made me think, or otherwise put a smile on my face or in my heart.

              Everyone else, though, enjoy your toxic, xenophobic, knee-jerk-to-violence, purity-testing, and harassing-anyone-who-doesn’t-fall-in-line cess pit. One day you, too, will do or say something that doesn’t toe the line and you’ll be right where I am.

              P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you’re welcome.

              fluke@feddit.uk
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              #66

              It smells like bitch in here.

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              • railcar8095@lemmy.world railcar8095@lemmy.world

                Honestly, I can see a "curated" list of user/instance bans as a feature, similar to unlock. But let people chose them.

                xerxos@lemmy.ml
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                #67

                If he had just implemented the list as a default that anyone could edit, he would have gotten pretty much what he wanted. I mean, some people would have edited the list, some would have deleted the list, but most people are lazy or uninformed and would have simply accepted the default.

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                • monument@piefed.world monument@piefed.world

                  That’s weirdly sort of how I got my job.

                  Apparently my predecessor was a nice guy with low boundaries that (at the time) lacked managerial support. When he painted himself into a corner on his commitments, didn’t get the accolades or raises he thought he should get, he got bitter, started to act out, stopped doing work he should have done, and finally, when management started pressing him to clean up some messes he had created over a year+ of neglecting his responsibilities, he left an unsigned resignation letter on his desk and didn’t come to work for a few days.
                  He called to discuss the terms of his return, expecting a raise, and they just told him they accepted his resignation.

                  fizzle@quokk.au
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                  #68

                  LOL. Sounds like an idiot. Even if the guy was really needed, you can't have someone like that on your team.

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                  • victorz@lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world

                    Expert dev. Doesn't even know the attribute for setting the language in the script tag is type, not lang. Not to mention that you are encouraged to omit the attribute altogether if the script tag contains JavaScript...

                    Petty, and a bad dev. Big yikes.

                    muehe@lemmy.ml
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                    #69

                    Well the script tag has a deprecated attribute called language, so in older code and media you will see <script language="javascript"> a bunch. The weird thing is they instead used the lang attribute which just doesn't exist.

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                    • railcar8095@lemmy.world railcar8095@lemmy.world

                      Honestly, I can see a "curated" list of user/instance bans as a feature, similar to unlock. But let people chose them.

                      tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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                      #70

                      Yeah, either that or at least if everyone on the blocklist was like nazis or something it seems like he would've had at least half a leg to stand on. But the fact that the most random and benign users showed up on it and he was still trying to justify it as "making the experience better for the fediverse" showed that he was just some asshole completely convinced of his own righteousness.

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                      • oce@jlai.lu oce@jlai.lu

                        I could understand his initial intention of having some kind of nsfw filter for radical opinions, even though the implementation was questionable. And I was honestly sad about the shit storm that hit him. Too many people here pretend to be more respectful and empathetic than average, but will happily dogpile to get a piece of a person given the right momentum.
                        But this ddos code is hard to defend, it goes against his own initial intention. He should have walked away before reaching this point.
                        Can we avoid adding new events to this sad chain of events now?

                        simon_shitewood@lemmy.ml
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                        #71

                        Too many people here pretend to be more respectful and empathetic than average, but will happily dogpile to get a piece of a person given the right momentum.

                        "People here pretend to be nice, but get angry when I try to secretly push them out of the conversation"

                        Shut up, idiot.

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                        • muehe@lemmy.ml muehe@lemmy.ml

                          Well the script tag has a deprecated attribute called language, so in older code and media you will see <script language="javascript"> a bunch. The weird thing is they instead used the lang attribute which just doesn't exist.

                          victorz@lemmy.world
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                          #72

                          Uh huh. Exactly.

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                          • quentincallaghan@sopuli.xyz quentincallaghan@sopuli.xyz

                            I could understand hardcoded blacklists if Tesseract were meant as a frontend for a Lemmy instance tailored for a specific purpose, and not intended for general use. But this, to DDOS a website because the developer is a whiny baby who can't take criticism? This is a new low. This is disgusting, and damaging for the Lemmyverse as whole.

                            prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                            #73

                            Good riddance then, I guess.

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                            • jaybone@lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip

                              This person is most likely mentally ill. I tried to point out a bunch of weird shit that the dubvee instance was doing two or three years ago. I was mostly ignored and made to feel like I was crazy. So I just dropped it and tried to block and ignore anything from Dubvee on my own clients. So it’s quite vindicating to see this asshole get totally blown up for days now all over the fediverse. But also kind of tiring, like we’re reverting back to bean memes just to get a break from this drama.

                              raman_klogius@ani.social
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                              #74

                              we at the fringes are fated to share space with the mentally ill forever i guess

                              totallynotjessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 2 Risposte Ultima Risposta
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                              • egrets@lemmy.world egrets@lemmy.world

                                And that full text, also to avoid extra visits:

                                You crazies won and proved me wrong. The fediverse isn't worth saving after all.

                                Over the course of the last several days, I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance's top admin. This is unacceptable for all of the reasons in the world, and while I won't give you the personal satisfaction of having won, you've definitely proven me wrong about the fediverse being something that even can be saved from itself.

                                Even people around here I'd interacted with positively for years and had grown to respect because they seemed level headed and above the immature and sociopathic bullshit that dominates this platform showed their true selves. That completely shattered any and all illusions I had that this place has a hidden core of users that I should try to make more visible amongst all the rage, rage baiting, propaganda, harassment, rumor mongering, trolls, conspiracies, purity testing, witch hunts, and violent rhetoric.

                                Like many of the rational people before me who called this place home, I'm done with this place.

                                I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren't me actually want a place that's not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.

                                Then you have entire instances whose admins call for the death of others, harass other users, and lead harassment, brigading, and DARVO campaigns against those who dare call out their bullshit or decide to disassociate themselves and their work from them.

                                Lemmy.World was so close to doing the right thing after instance-that-will-not-be named's admins were calling for the death of LW's admins while spreading rumours and labeling others in such a way that painted them as targets for murder. All of that, mind you, with absoultey no evidence other than specuation and their own cooked-up conspiracies about modlog actions or taking and twisting things wildly out of context to fit their made-up narratives so they had someone to say they 'caught' and should be killed.

                                .world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.

                                "We have to worry about the optics or the politics of it." they probably said.

                                Bullshit.

                                I'm one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse. If I can stand up for what's right and deal with the blowback, so can you.

                                Fuck lemmy world's admin team for condoning that behavior and letting the human skidmark db0 DARVO his way out of the situation while brigading with his army of malcontents whom he wields like a cult leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, and you all continue to allow him to get away with it.

                                Nah, fuck this whole place. I've let too many things fall by the wayside IRL because of dealing with all this fediverse bullshit and trying to give it the slightest bit of polish both visually and atmospherically. Mythbusters may have proven that you can, in fact, polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it's still a shiny ball of shit.

                                For the few people left who didn't turn out to be psychotic, I'll think of you from time to time when recalling something you've posted or commented that genuinely made me laugh, made me think, or otherwise put a smile on my face or in my heart.

                                Everyone else, though, enjoy your toxic, xenophobic, knee-jerk-to-violence, purity-testing, and harassing-anyone-who-doesn't-fall-in-line cess pit. One day you, too, will do or say something that doesn't toe the line and you'll be right where I am.

                                P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you're welcome.

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                                #75

                                I am shocked and appalled that the Admiral himself would use such toxic language. Perchance he needs to review the bad words on his list with those used in his rant.

                                /s

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                                • embargo@lemmy.zip embargo@lemmy.zip

                                  I don't think I've ever witnessed someone going so hard off the rails. It's been an entertaining few days really.

                                  dojan@pawb.social
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                                  #76

                                  It’s okay, they are a measured and non-violent individual that just wants Lemmy to be friendly for the “normies.”

                                  They’re a good guy™︎!

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                                  • xerxos@lemmy.ml xerxos@lemmy.ml

                                    If he had just implemented the list as a default that anyone could edit, he would have gotten pretty much what he wanted. I mean, some people would have edited the list, some would have deleted the list, but most people are lazy or uninformed and would have simply accepted the default.

                                    prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                                    #77

                                    I really hope the tesseract fork implements this feature.

                                    Nothing would prove him more wrong than actually implement what he wanted in a sensible, non-dickish way.

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                                    • victorz@lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world

                                      Expert dev. Doesn't even know the attribute for setting the language in the script tag is type, not lang. Not to mention that you are encouraged to omit the attribute altogether if the script tag contains JavaScript...

                                      Petty, and a bad dev. Big yikes.

                                      ftumch@lemmy.today
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                                      #78

                                      There used to be a language attribute, but I don't think I've ever seen lang before.

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                                      • solrac@lemmy.world solrac@lemmy.world

                                        You know, I think this whole situation could've been boiled down to just make an instance and defederate, instead we got the FediKaren of the year with their silly obscured list and petty shoddy ahh ddos script.

                                        pm_me_vintage_30s@anarchist.nexus
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                                        #79

                                        He actually did make an instance (dubvee DOT org, but please don't visit because the dev added JavaScript that tries to DDOS dbzer0 every time someone accesses dubvee).

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                                        • grue@lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world

                                          To be fair, it's not as if it supports languages other than fucking Javascript anyway, so it mostly doesn't matter.

                                          Edit: I don't want to split hairs about modules or json or whatever; I just want to be salty about how we could've had Scheme or Python in the browser.

                                          irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          #80

                                          Actually some sites do. Instagram uses type=application/json to store preloaded data.

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