What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
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@ricci Wow, I got a *lot* of dead instances in the Followers/Following stats, but well kind of expected given how long my instance has been there (2018) and how long I've been on fedi (2013).
But otherwise m.s isn't in the top 10 of my timeline:
screen.png@lanodan yeah, it can be pretty surprising to see the actual numbers!
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@groxx Yeah from other responses, it seems like relatively low actual traffic from m.s is not unusual.
Though quite possibly, I'm most directly connected to "fringe folks" who are less likely to be strongly connected to m.s, and/or these are the sort of folks who are more likely to give the tool a try
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@groxx oh wow you have a more curated feed than me, I hit the 800 limit for posts in the masto timeline API before I hit 24h
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@groxx yeah boosting is great, there are some very big, fairly active accounts here that I don't follow, not because I don't like them (I do) but because their "greatest hits" get boosted into my feed, and that's good enough for me!
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@riverpunk Yeah I don't know. To be clear, I don't expect it to go away :) this is just one fairly accessible datapoint to get towards understanding the structural risks in the Fediverse
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What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
(Reposting my tool that helps you figure this out.)
mastodon.social is the biggest server on the #fediverse , with over 21% of accounts, and an even higher percentage of #Mastodon accounts.
But what does that mean to you, personally? Let's say it went away tomorrow - (assuming you aren't on it yourself), how much of your timeline would vanish?
In my case, it turns out - not a lot, actually! The biggest sources of posts that I see are (1) a very small instance that doesn't even federate with much of the Fediverse, but many of my friends are there, (2) my own instance, (3) a large tech-focused instance that is still much smaller than mastodon.social. The big guy is only 5% of the post I've seen recently.
But this might be different for you!
Find out for yourself at https://moderation-explorer.online/ . Use 'advanced mode' to see this analysis, since you need to log into see your actual feed.
You might even decide to try moving to an instance that you're more connected to?
(It's explained more on the site, but all the work happens in your browser, I don't see your identity, auth tokens, posts that get loaded, none of it.)
@ricci its a lot quieter without mastodon.social. I blocked it long ago.
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What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
(Reposting my tool that helps you figure this out.)
mastodon.social is the biggest server on the #fediverse , with over 21% of accounts, and an even higher percentage of #Mastodon accounts.
But what does that mean to you, personally? Let's say it went away tomorrow - (assuming you aren't on it yourself), how much of your timeline would vanish?
In my case, it turns out - not a lot, actually! The biggest sources of posts that I see are (1) a very small instance that doesn't even federate with much of the Fediverse, but many of my friends are there, (2) my own instance, (3) a large tech-focused instance that is still much smaller than mastodon.social. The big guy is only 5% of the post I've seen recently.
But this might be different for you!
Find out for yourself at https://moderation-explorer.online/ . Use 'advanced mode' to see this analysis, since you need to log into see your actual feed.
You might even decide to try moving to an instance that you're more connected to?
(It's explained more on the site, but all the work happens in your browser, I don't see your identity, auth tokens, posts that get loaded, none of it.)
This is hella interesting. Thank you!
I grabbed screenshots of the tables that looked informative.I interact less with .social than the 'average' user but it's still the biggest source of follows, followers, and posts. I wouldn't think of muting that server.
I picked c.im because it has reasonable rules about NSFW material and chill mods and a huge character count. I admittedly don't use the local feed except by accident.
None of the special interest servers I've seen fit my personality, interests, or location. fgc.network comes closest but it's so tiny that I miss out on many of the replies to posts that I see.
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What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
(Reposting my tool that helps you figure this out.)
mastodon.social is the biggest server on the #fediverse , with over 21% of accounts, and an even higher percentage of #Mastodon accounts.
But what does that mean to you, personally? Let's say it went away tomorrow - (assuming you aren't on it yourself), how much of your timeline would vanish?
In my case, it turns out - not a lot, actually! The biggest sources of posts that I see are (1) a very small instance that doesn't even federate with much of the Fediverse, but many of my friends are there, (2) my own instance, (3) a large tech-focused instance that is still much smaller than mastodon.social. The big guy is only 5% of the post I've seen recently.
But this might be different for you!
Find out for yourself at https://moderation-explorer.online/ . Use 'advanced mode' to see this analysis, since you need to log into see your actual feed.
You might even decide to try moving to an instance that you're more connected to?
(It's explained more on the site, but all the work happens in your browser, I don't see your identity, auth tokens, posts that get loaded, none of it.)
@ricci I would lose... a few posts from a few folks. Not nearly enough to make me complain, should mastodon.social get the DeFedi from beige.party. I believe it was already DeFederated from my old instance, dice.camp. Folks on mastodon.social really should find a better instance (and we should help them do so, joyfully, not scoldingly).
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What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
(Reposting my tool that helps you figure this out.)
mastodon.social is the biggest server on the #fediverse , with over 21% of accounts, and an even higher percentage of #Mastodon accounts.
But what does that mean to you, personally? Let's say it went away tomorrow - (assuming you aren't on it yourself), how much of your timeline would vanish?
In my case, it turns out - not a lot, actually! The biggest sources of posts that I see are (1) a very small instance that doesn't even federate with much of the Fediverse, but many of my friends are there, (2) my own instance, (3) a large tech-focused instance that is still much smaller than mastodon.social. The big guy is only 5% of the post I've seen recently.
But this might be different for you!
Find out for yourself at https://moderation-explorer.online/ . Use 'advanced mode' to see this analysis, since you need to log into see your actual feed.
You might even decide to try moving to an instance that you're more connected to?
(It's explained more on the site, but all the work happens in your browser, I don't see your identity, auth tokens, posts that get loaded, none of it.)
@ricci question: does it count lists? I use a few lists with «exclude from home timeline» option, so counting only home timeline is not very representative
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@ricci question: does it count lists? I use a few lists with «exclude from home timeline» option, so counting only home timeline is not very representative
@mo It hits the `timelines/home` API, which I *think* is the same one used for home timeline in the web interface and most other clients. So I *think* it's excluding your lists.
I should probably add a very simple timeline view to make this easier to tell
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@mo It hits the `timelines/home` API, which I *think* is the same one used for home timeline in the web interface and most other clients. So I *think* it's excluding your lists.
I should probably add a very simple timeline view to make this easier to tell
@ricci or add support for counting lists too :D
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@ricci or add support for counting lists too :D
@mo I think that would be fairly complicated, I think I'd have to crawl the home timeline, all list timelines, and deduplicate stuff that appears in more than one :)
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@mo I think that would be fairly complicated, I think I'd have to crawl the home timeline, all list timelines, and deduplicate stuff that appears in more than one :)
@ricci hmmmm... where would be better to send you a pull request? I have both GitHub and Codeberg
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@ricci hmmmm... where would be better to send you a pull request? I have both GitHub and Codeberg
@mo sure! we'd want to be a bit careful about not blindly pulling all lists since that could make the whole thing take a long time if someone has a lot of them (and not necessarily helpful if they don't have them exclude as you do) but I'm sure we can figure something reasonable out
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@mo sure! we'd want to be a bit careful about not blindly pulling all lists since that could make the whole thing take a long time if someone has a lot of them (and not necessarily helpful if they don't have them exclude as you do) but I'm sure we can figure something reasonable out
@mo Oh and let's do codeberg
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@mo Oh and let's do codeberg
@mo already have another one submitted there that I need to look at
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oblomov@sociale.network ha condiviso questa discussione su
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What would happen to your timeline if mastodon.social went away?
(Reposting my tool that helps you figure this out.)
mastodon.social is the biggest server on the #fediverse , with over 21% of accounts, and an even higher percentage of #Mastodon accounts.
But what does that mean to you, personally? Let's say it went away tomorrow - (assuming you aren't on it yourself), how much of your timeline would vanish?
In my case, it turns out - not a lot, actually! The biggest sources of posts that I see are (1) a very small instance that doesn't even federate with much of the Fediverse, but many of my friends are there, (2) my own instance, (3) a large tech-focused instance that is still much smaller than mastodon.social. The big guy is only 5% of the post I've seen recently.
But this might be different for you!
Find out for yourself at https://moderation-explorer.online/ . Use 'advanced mode' to see this analysis, since you need to log into see your actual feed.
You might even decide to try moving to an instance that you're more connected to?
(It's explained more on the site, but all the work happens in your browser, I don't see your identity, auth tokens, posts that get loaded, none of it.)
@ricci Interesting. My main account mostly follows people in the Korean Fediverse, and quite a few of the instances they use aren't Mastodon instances at all. That's probably why the tool doesn't show population data for some of them — many of them run Misskey or Misskey-derived software. (Misskey is Fediverse software from Japan, and it's particularly popular in Japan and South Korea.)
I'm also fascinated by how many people seem to join mastodon.social simply because it has "Mastodon" in the name, even though the Fediverse is much bigger than mastodon.social — or even Mastodon as a piece of software.
So I guess mastodon.social can be very important to some people while barely mattering to others.
I used to wonder, "What's the point of having separate servers if you're not really allowed to change much visually?" But I suppose the differences are more about rules, community focus, and moderation policies. In my own experience, though, I don't come across that many servers built around a very specific theme or subject.
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@ionchy @bhaktishh @atsuzaki ionchy learning for the first time that he's a poster
Seriously tho Jonathan, it's actually super nice to have you here going all through my day, ya know?
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@sberson That's correct, sorry - it uses the mastodon APIs.
I think that the basic mode could probably work with raw ActivityPub if you make follows/followers public; I've been wanting to do some work in AP to learn it better, I'll add this to the idea list.
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