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@jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

Your original thread @liaizon, would be a good starting point for a letter draft I think ...

@liaizon @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

Another issue is the whole governance issue - their 2022 stated goal for "Exit to Community" has resulted in:

"That vision became reality in 2024, when stewardship of the platform transitioned to a new nonprofit: the Open Finance Consortium Inc. (OFiCo), a U.S. 501(c)(6) association created by and for the fiscal hosts and communities who rely on it.

OFiCo now governs the platform collectively, while its subsidiary OFi Technologies (OFiTech) operates the platform. Together, they continue the original Open Collective mission: enabling transparent, collaborative finance for communities everywhere."

What does "govern the platform collectively" mean?

The OFi Consortium site says they are "community governed", and then later, that they are formed by 5 organisations including Open Collective Europe and Open Source Collective, that "represent thousands of Collectives and guide our strategic direction".

I'm in several collectives that are fiscally hosted by Open Collective Europe, and I have never been asked to "guide their strategic direction" in any real governance sense. And looking through their (OCE) site - there is nothing I can find about hosted collectives having governance. For me "exit to community" means that the community, in this case, the collectives, have governance - but I don't see it.

Am I missing something?

This is probably next-step stuff. But it is a lingering question I have had for a while. I have a good relationship with OCE, and I believe they are well-meaning. My worry is that if there is no real community governance, then it becomes "community-washing" instead of "community-governance".

@liaizon @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

In general I would love to have a network of grassroots OC/OSC to pressure for stuff. e.g.

* Getting another payment processor than Stripe

@liaizon @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

I wonder if there is a strategic consideration here:

1) Reach out to Open Collective & Open Source Collective in good faith with the letter and give them a chance to do something without a lot of fuss.

2) And then go more public.

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@liaizon @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

With an network of protesting collectives there are ways to escalate, one way could be:

* Write to all your collectives supporters and ask them to share the story.

@liaizon @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

Yes haven't checked out the state of petition-software lately.

One low effort/complexity way of doing it would be to write a letter in ukrudt's hedgedoc and just ask projects to sign it if they agree - sign it by way of writing their name in the bottom: https://hedgedoc.ukrudt.net/ - we can then create a public read-only link and share that.

@liaizon Ok let's talk strategies for push back - we gotta stop this! @jowek @ukrudt @tak @ruben @magnus

Making an angry github issue?

Making a petition signed by a lot of collectives?

?? what else?