@lexinova @Hummel @jolla surely, if we are talking scenarios where someone with big enough know-how is actively and physically trying to enter your phone. I don't know about you, but I don't think many people has that fear. In my thread model risk for that is basically zero. My concern is European tech independency and US corporations, as I said. Pixel and android forks don't really support that, at least in my opinion. Much more important to get rid of duopoly at least for me
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9,000 pre-orders.@lexinova @Hummel @jolla Or they just aren't hw company? Maybe they aren't that deep in HW design? I would still argue that isn't necessary for 97% of the population when compared to average person thread model (=data mining). I prefer much more to support European initiatives. If Jolla starts to take own hardware position more, this could be demanded more eagerly to be included in the next phone. Now it was much more important that we get decent phone that 80% off the population can happily use
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9,000 pre-orders.@lexinova @Hummel @jolla Well as we don't have consumer grade phone chip manufacturers inside EU currently, it is hard to wish those. For me the Jolla phone is way to support SailfishOS development which I see one of the key things to have European tech independency from US duopoly. Would I love to see full EU made HW? For sure! But currently it isn't available, isn't it? Doesn't matter what HW GOS supports, as there isn't full EU HW, it won't really support EU tech independency IMO
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9,000 pre-orders.@lexinova @Hummel @jolla I don't avoid them just for avoiding them, but as my main threat factor is big tech data mining and undermining EU tech independence I want something that tackles those two. Buying Google hardware to run android fork doesn't bring much (or anything?) to EU tech independency.
But again, I don't know what you do for living and you may live in place like Hungary. Fully understandable to value personal safety over EU tech independence in case you have that kind of threats
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9,000 pre-orders.@lexinova @Hummel @jolla Glad that you didn't advertise north american options! Don't actually know if there is also European options in this non spoken category, is there?
But to the point here, do you think that this "flaw" is super important for wide masses? For opposition activist, journalist etc. who might have real danger, I would encourage some other options, but for average Sven in Europe I think this protects them by their biggest thread factor = North american data mining just fine