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@ret @cstross Yep, because Glasman and his Blue Labour cronies think they need to 'reach out' to them, while ignoring people who actually might vote Labour. For that matter, Farage will come out against it when he sniffs the wind as usual.

@cstross It'll just get the usual crappy response for the 10,000 level and it will be herded through irrespective of any debate unless enough Labour MPs get behind it. To me it feels like someone has said 'do something' to Starmer and as usual, he's firmly grasped the wrong end of the stick.