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@bjn @dangoodin That is the one thing I can see that has the potential to bring Linux to a wider audience.

@mikecox @dangoodin That’s probably true, but it’s also irrelevant. The vast majority of people will never have to learn how to install Windows, while all of them would have to either figure out how to install Linux or find someone to do it for them if they decided to try Linux.

However, all of them would need to figure out how to install other apps, connect hardware peripherals like mice, monitors, printers, microphones, speakers, etc, and that’s where the Linux + FOSS experiment would come to an end for most of them.

@dangoodin Yeah. I mean, they’re not wrong… it’s hard to trust Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc these days. But there’s a good reason that it has never yet been “the year of Linux on the desktop.” I myself - a technical person - have irrevocably borked Linux installs to the point that the only option was to erase and start over, just by trying to install a piece of open source software on it.

@dangoodin I love how Linux is always the solution. Folks have no clue how regular people operate. If I were to hand a Linux laptop to any of the smart but non-technical folks I know, they’d struggle hard. Expecting them to install Linux or install and manage a number of FOSS tools? That’s not happening.

@Viss My youngest son has gotten into hot sauces lately, so I’m going to have to order some. 🙂

@Viss Tim Cook’s Apple could not have strayed further from the Apple I loved in 1984.

@Viss Yup, we’re all discombobulated here due to having temps in the 40s in January, because it’s way too warm and the skiing sucks. Plus low snow cover is going to be a bitch this summer. Gonna be a bad fire season here, I fear. Different expectations.

@Viss I’ve been outside for extended periods when it was in the single digits.

@Viss Wow… I figured that might be the case, but nonetheless it’s weird to me. See the outside temperature here three years and a couple weeks ago. That’s not how it is all the time, but it typically gets below -20 at least once each winter here.

@Viss I know why I’d be complaining about that, but less sure about southern California. Is that too low or too high? (We’ve been having temps like that up in the mountains of western Montana and it’s an absolute abomination… should be below freezing almost every day.)

@lorenzofb It may be a “we don’t have a venue yet so how do we announce the location” situation. (Knowing nothing at all about that particular conference, but being familiar with the issues many conferences have.)

@Viss Time to just yolo everything? 😉

@Viss Where I am, paying for “overnight” is a waste of money. Such a thing does not exist here. The best we can do, regardless of what company is shipping it and how it’s being shipped, is for them to actually hit a planned delivery date next week.

@Viss This is why I have as few smart devices as possible, and keep the ones I do have disconnected from the internet. Also part of why I live in the woods in the mountains and spend my time in places where I’m more likely to run into bears than people.