Fuck Cars
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let’s explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speechDon’t discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass peopleDon’t follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don’t doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
- !yimby@lemmy.world
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
-
I would think free public transit would be the least controversial since free roads are already taken for granted.
-
@bluemoon @vk6flab The UK we have it in some places for the young, and all over for the over 60s. It's a really good idea because amongst other things many people over 60 often should not be driving.
At that point it would be simpler to extend it to the rest than keep fares.
Historically we had local government owned bus systems that charged mostly token fares and understood that the cost of the buses was less than road widening, pollution, accidents - but that Thatcher destroyed it.
-
@jessta @bluemoon If you read the whole post you'll see that removing fares comes out to be cost neutral. That means there's still the same amount of money to do whatever thing you want to try, too.
These are the dumbest arguments. Don't do X, because it doesn't help with Y. You can do more than one thing.
-
@bluemoon
Also Durham, NC - since the pandemic. The fare free policy has been locked in a "temporary" status, but we lobby city council every year to get it extended.
-
@bluemoon All great points!
Just one nitpick as a resident of Washington State: I only know of one municipality with fare-free transit, which is Intercity Transit in the Olympia area. All the transit systems in the Seattle area still charge fares. Youth under 18 ride transit free everywhere in the state, which is a start.
-
@bluemoon bus travel free for under 20'sand over 60's here in Scotland and it makes a difference -older people get out and about more, young people can travel to college and work and it reduces cars on road .
-
@SusiArnott @bluemoon
Maybe by holding them for six to twelve hours (depending on their metabolism) without food; and then turning them loose in a supermarket with, say, $3.00 plus the cash equivalent of the bus fare they'd need to get home?
-
@spiegelmama @bluemoon As a blind guy who used to live in a city, I was lucky in that I got free metro and bus service and it was incredibly helpful when I needed to travel to different places, especially when i was a much older teen and was traveling alone.
