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Ideas for a better Lemmy experience

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world

    Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

    New features :

    • auto closing/suspending stale communities
      • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
    • staggered new account permissions:
      • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
    • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
      • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

    Curious what people think about this?

    opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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    #10

    I could go for closing stale communities. There are some that have been vacant/inactive for years now. I mean communities with zero posts or comments.

    If somebody wanted to takeover or revive one of them, they would've done it by now.

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    • solarpunker@slrpnk.net solarpunker@slrpnk.net

      Could limiting new users maybe help against bot spamming?

      skavau@piefed.social
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      #11

      Yes, but it would tank the user retention rate.

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      • solarpunker@slrpnk.net solarpunker@slrpnk.net

        Could limiting new users maybe help against bot spamming?

        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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        #12

        Maybe slightly? But not worth turning away potential new users. We need more users.

        Bots and spammers would just create accounts in advance and let them sit to get to the right age, it'd be the same.

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        • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

          I could go for closing stale communities. There are some that have been vacant/inactive for years now. I mean communities with zero posts or comments.

          If somebody wanted to takeover or revive one of them, they would've done it by now.

          zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #13

          A new user might come along and post something that revives interest in it. What Lemmy needs are more users to increase activity.

          New users are unlikely to be interested in immediately committing to creating and/or maintaining a community with regular posts and moderation over a long period of time, but might be willing to contribute to existing communities. Better to have dormant communities that can be revived than to have a lack of topics for new users to contribute to.

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          • kingofras@lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world

            Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

            New features :

            • auto closing/suspending stale communities
              • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
            • staggered new account permissions:
              • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
            • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
              • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

            Curious what people think about this?

            lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
            lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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            #14
            • Bad. Don't even need to comment on this one.
            • Non-conductive: spammers can just wait it out, whereas real users get demotivated.
            • Dangerous: can be used for remotely censoring queer stuff.
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            • kingofras@lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world

              Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

              New features :

              • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
              • staggered new account permissions:
                • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
              • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

              Curious what people think about this?

              lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
              lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
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              #15

              auto closing/suspending stale communities
              stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts

              No. I've seen several times people ask the admins if they could take over a community. And it happened. Thus reviving dead communities.

              staggered new account permissions:
              wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

              Why?

              allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.

              This one I like.

              Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.

              That's not how it should be done though. The same menu that you pull out that lets you report things to a mod, instead of reporting to mod, it should let you report as NSFW. If a mod approves the request, it then becomes labeled as NSFW.

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              • skavau@piefed.social skavau@piefed.social

                auto closing/suspending stale communities

                Define "stale" commmunities.

                wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

                This would not help interacting levels at all.

                kingofras@lemmy.world
                kingofras@lemmy.world
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                #16

                My proposed definition of stale is in the OP

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                • riotingpacifist@lemmy.world riotingpacifist@lemmy.world

                  What is the point of "staggered new account permissions"?

                  At most we should be Autofolding/hiding unpopular comments.

                  kingofras@lemmy.world
                  kingofras@lemmy.world
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                  #17

                  This stuff? https://lemmy.world/u/FYLD_Proofchain

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                  • kingofras@lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world

                    This stuff? https://lemmy.world/u/FYLD_Proofchain

                    riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
                    riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
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                    #18

                    I think the issue is putting barriers to legit users even if it prevents some spam will keep us small.

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                    • kingofras@lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world

                      Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                      New features :

                      • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                        • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                      • staggered new account permissions:
                        • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                      • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                        • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                      Curious what people think about this?

                      julian@activitypub.space
                      julian@activitypub.space
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                      #19

                      I'll give some insight from NodeBB.

                      Adding in delays (x days until first post, y hours until upvote, etc.) do nothing to curb spam.

                      If your spam is manual, they will discover the waiting period, update their rulebook, and go to town when the waiting period is over.

                      If the spam is automated, it will work until the spammer admin discovers the waiting period, updates the script, and has the bots resume going to town when the waiting period is over.

                      At the same time it severly hampers usability at its most crucial (the first post).

                      The only thing that works to curb spam is a post queue with manual review... or locking the ability to post links behind reputation.

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