Is Pixelfed sawing off the branch that the Fediverse is sitting on?

[n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca]

wait, Piefed posts don't show up on Mastodon?

[blaze@piefed.zip]

You can't follow people on Lemmy or Piefed, and everybody here seems fine with that

[rglullis@communick.news]

You only heard the term in context of centralized big social media so you think the term has bad connotation

Please, don't assume things about the people on the other side of a debate. It's condescending and it robs us all of learning.

I'm not saying that we don't need platforms because of "bad connotation". I'm saying it because I have worked on a "social browser" for the fediverse, an application server for using activitypub as a transport mechanism and I know that we can develop an open social web that does not rely on server-centric applications.

[n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca]

It might not be what you want, but it is what I want, which is why my primary social media is Friendica because IMHO it does a really good job of working well with all. They have dedicated photo albums, lemmy communities show as Friendica Forums, etc.

[n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca]

which is one of the great advantages of the Fedi verse, because you can if you want to. Mbin lets you, Frienidca lets you, and Mastodon lets you. I don't like how Mastodon handles lemmy communities or Friendica Forums by making it look as though the group user re-toots every post and comment, but others do! We can all have what we want thanks to the magic of Free Software!

[blaze@piefed.zip]

Of course people can, but do they? In terms of monthly active users:

• https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats: 35.000
• https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats: 1600
• https://mbin.fediverse.observer/dailystats: 736

Everybody can interpret those numbers differently, to me they show that people on the Threadiverse don't care about the microblogging format that much.

[corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca]

I go to pixelfed to post my art and view other peoples art. that’s it. I don’t go there to read posts or what’s going on in peoples lives.

Yes but being able to do that is a design goal of the fediverse

Is it? Beause that seems really dumb.

Here's a radical idea: sometimes, web services are built with features you don't use. Sometimes you don't even *value *those features. But, in cases where your preference isn't in the majority, the decision to include those features won't match your personal preference.

Sometimes, the ability to share and see content between different sites is even a core value.

Weird.

For more information, search "false consensus".

You may want to learn how you can configure your own accounts on various services to manage what you see on each one. Because, to some extent, that's a configuration option.

[baronvonj@lemmy.world]

They [partially] did, https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/106617110297151132

[steve@communick.news]

Why would you follow the same accounts on multiple platforms?
Or do you mean one person who has accounts on multiple platforms?

[n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca]

Yes, people do. Thankfully we as a community aren't bound to corporate shareholders, so it doesn't matter how many people choose to use it, we don't have a need to increase users. While we don't have a fiduciary duty to be kind for similar reasons, I think it is generally a good idea to do so. In my experience when I have used words/phrase like "everybody" "nobody" or "people don't" some have told me they found it off-putting or belittling when they are in the minority so I try to avoid it but I still find it hard sometimes as that is not the way I was taught to speak in government indoctrination camp so there is a lot of de-schooling I need to do.

[baronvonj@lemmy.world]

I can from a number of other Fediverse platforms. I may not be able to follow you on Lemmy like I can follow a community, but I can still find your account to see your posts and comments, and that limitation doesn't really impact me having to have per-instance accounts versus having a fediverse-wide account. I have probably a dozen fediverse accounts across multiple platforms. I want to have my fediverse identity able to access all fediverse platforms and that other people using that platform can find me as.

[n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca]

I sure do like this picture:

[steve@communick.news]

So like a single ActivityPub instance that hosts all the data, but users can have a Pixelfed app, Lemmy app, etc. all connect to that one server and use it to give the experience they specifically provide.

That's a cool idea. I can see how that would work.

[steve@communick.news]

And that's great! Everyone gets what they want. But suggesting Lemmy, Pixelfed, and Peertube, etc. should all try to do it the way Friendica does, is a bad idea.

[baronvonj@lemmy.world]

If I have a mutual who is on multiple platforms, and I also have accounts on those same multiple platforms, we would generally be following each other mutually on those same platforms.

[steve@communick.news]

But your saying Peertube should have all the forum functionality of Lemmy, and the endless short video scroll of Loops.

rgluilis suggested a generic server idea, where the media and experience differentiating is done at the client app level. That could work well. But that's an entirely different cincpet and structure.

[julian@activitypub.space]

You jest, but I'm pretty sure someone out there made a cli interface for AP.