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    I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

    Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

    Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

    Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

    We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

    We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

    Abundance led to waste.

    #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

    dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzundefined emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined rdnt@hachyderm.ioundefined as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined nicksilkey@hachyderm.ioundefined 15 Risposte Ultima Risposta
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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

      Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

      Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

      Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

      We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

      We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

      Abundance led to waste.

      #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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      @stefano

      Huge love.

      #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

        Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

        Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

        Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

        We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

        We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

        Abundance led to waste.

        #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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        @stefano Luckily Open Source server side software seems to be mostly immune to Wirth's Law ("software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware is becoming faster"), in fact thanks to easier to use "bare metal" languages (Go, Zig, Rust...) we have a great pick of super efficient self hosted software. People 15 years ago probably wouldn't have believed how much stuff you can host on a simple Raspberry Pi.

        On the other hand client side and web application performance nowadays its mostly a joke, having to replace perfectly working phones just to keep using WhatsApp or having Reddit lagging on a MacBook M1 is ridiculous. Open source often isn't much better either since lots of stuff nowadays is still based on Electron and/or bloated React setups.

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

          Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

          Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

          Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

          We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

          We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

          Abundance led to waste.

          #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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          @stefano oh my god I read your blog post. SO many goodies. 33MB RSS with this amount of functionality? And in Go???!

          Can't wait to try it out! :D

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

            Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

            Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

            Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

            We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

            We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

            Abundance led to waste.

            #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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            @stefano

            That gives me some hope actually. Not much though ... :P

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

              Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

              Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

              Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

              We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

              We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

              Abundance led to waste.

              #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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              @stefano amazing work - thanks for sharing this lil' fedi joy bundle. 🫂✌️

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              • nicksilkey@hachyderm.ioundefined nicksilkey@hachyderm.io

                @stefano amazing work - thanks for sharing this lil' fedi joy bundle. 🫂✌️

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                @nicksilkey thank you!

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

                  Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

                  Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

                  Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

                  We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

                  We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

                  Abundance led to waste.

                  #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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                  @stefano nice! Is this littlefedi project linked to snac or is it a different thing?

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                    @stefano nice! Is this littlefedi project linked to snac or is it a different thing?

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                    @fedops @stefano I'd suspect as it's SQLite it's something else...

                    Snac uses the filesystem directly data.

                    Still, astonishingly amazing it's running on a pi zero!

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

                      Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

                      Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

                      Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

                      We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

                      We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

                      Abundance led to waste.

                      #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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                      @stefano Truly impressive.

                      And yes, there is *so* much computational waste these days that it's jaw-dropping.

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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

                        Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

                        Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

                        Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

                        We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

                        We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

                        Abundance led to waste.

                        #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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                        @stefano
                        Wow didn't know openbsd has a wifi driver for pico w
                        Huge success!

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                        • post_reader@wehavecookies.socialundefined post_reader@wehavecookies.social

                          @stefano
                          Wow didn't know openbsd has a wifi driver for pico w
                          Huge success!

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                          @post_reader this is NetBSD - OpenBSD doesn't support armv6

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                          • paul@notnull.spaceundefined paul@notnull.space

                            @fedops @stefano I'd suspect as it's SQLite it's something else...

                            Snac uses the filesystem directly data.

                            Still, astonishingly amazing it's running on a pi zero!

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                            @paul @fedops no, not related to snac. It's another project, another team, another idea. Similar idea of minimalism, but still different.

                            snac is great. Dealing with files, hard links, etc is something I really like and appreciate

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @paul @fedops no, not related to snac. It's another project, another team, another idea. Similar idea of minimalism, but still different.

                              snac is great. Dealing with files, hard links, etc is something I really like and appreciate

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                              @stefano same. I know that developers like databases but admins hate them.
                              @paul

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                              • paul@notnull.spaceundefined paul@notnull.space

                                @fedops @stefano I'd suspect as it's SQLite it's something else...

                                Snac uses the filesystem directly data.

                                Still, astonishingly amazing it's running on a pi zero!

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                                @paul yup. Then again, the Pi0 is hundreds of times what a SPARCstation 10 was, and we ran a full Usenet feed plus several hundred concurrent reader connections on one.

                                @stefano

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                                • fedops@fosstodon.orgundefined fedops@fosstodon.org

                                  @paul yup. Then again, the Pi0 is hundreds of times what a SPARCstation 10 was, and we ran a full Usenet feed plus several hundred concurrent reader connections on one.

                                  @stefano

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                                  @fedops @paul totally agree.

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                                  • fedops@fosstodon.orgundefined fedops@fosstodon.org

                                    @paul yup. Then again, the Pi0 is hundreds of times what a SPARCstation 10 was, and we ran a full Usenet feed plus several hundred concurrent reader connections on one.

                                    @stefano

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                                    @fedops @stefano oh yeah, super little devices for the right purpose!

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      @fedops @paul totally agree.

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                                      @stefano @fedops @paul The hardware is more powerful, yes.

                                      But software has gotten a might more power hungry at the same time.

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

                                        Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

                                        Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

                                        Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

                                        We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

                                        We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

                                        Abundance led to waste.

                                        #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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                                        @stefano This looks very c00l!!

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                                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeundefined stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.

                                          Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.

                                          Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.

                                          Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.

                                          We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.

                                          We just need to optimize and build efficient software.

                                          Abundance led to waste.

                                          #littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse

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                                          @stefano
                                          Stefano,

                                          what "disk" hardware do you use?
                                          Is there a full spec available? I have a Pi 3B laying around somewhere...
                                          Would be nice to use that for some testing :-)

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