I promised it, so here it is.
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@stefano
Stefano,what "disk" hardware do you use?
Is there a full spec available? I have a Pi 3B laying around somewhere...
Would be nice to use that for some testing :-)@fd0 here I’m using the slow SD card. A raspberry pi 3 would surely give excellent performance.
The code isn’t ready to be distributed, yet. But I think it won’t be too long.
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@stefano This looks very c00l!!
@fd0 thanks!
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@fd0 here I’m using the slow SD card. A raspberry pi 3 would surely give excellent performance.
The code isn’t ready to be distributed, yet. But I think it won’t be too long.
@stefano not afraid of any wear on de SD card?
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@stefano not afraid of any wear on de SD card?
@fd0 sure, I am. But I need to test it in a very constrained environment.
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@fd0 sure, I am. But I need to test it in a very constrained environment.
@stefano
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
Abundance led to waste.
An interesting conclusion, given that it didn't happen when Personal Computers became abundant, but when companies started using them to sell products. Every fire leads to ash, but not every fire is currently burning your house down. -
@post_reader this is NetBSD - OpenBSD doesn't support armv6
@stefano
Sorry my mistake -
I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
@stefano awesome
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
@stefano beautiful!!
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@stefano beautiful!!
@chris thanks!
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
@stefano I 100% agree with your sentiment about efficiency, however any time you subject end users to delays of over 1 second *for anything*, you sort of break their "flow"; they can lose their train of thought easily. Like you're "de-railing" their trains of thought, for some excruciating gains in efficiency that perhaps have gone a little too far.
My personal standard for any sort of *server* is a Raspberry Pi 5 and up (and I have a couple of Pi 4 "legacy" servers as well, doing more menial tasks). IMHO, with the advent of the Pi 5, that's when the power supply crossed the line of sensibility, and became enough for attaching any and all external USB drives (SATA 2.5" drives in enclosures) I was wanting, and also NVMe is available.
I run a #Gotosocial server on a Pi 5, with an NVMe, BTW.
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@stefano I 100% agree with your sentiment about efficiency, however any time you subject end users to delays of over 1 second *for anything*, you sort of break their "flow"; they can lose their train of thought easily. Like you're "de-railing" their trains of thought, for some excruciating gains in efficiency that perhaps have gone a little too far.
My personal standard for any sort of *server* is a Raspberry Pi 5 and up (and I have a couple of Pi 4 "legacy" servers as well, doing more menial tasks). IMHO, with the advent of the Pi 5, that's when the power supply crossed the line of sensibility, and became enough for attaching any and all external USB drives (SATA 2.5" drives in enclosures) I was wanting, and also NVMe is available.
I run a #Gotosocial server on a Pi 5, with an NVMe, BTW.
@d1 RPI5 is a nice machine, but current prices are insane
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@d1 RPI5 is a nice machine, but current prices are insane
@stefano Yeah, agreed. I bought 3 Pi 5's just before the "ramp of insanity". I can't really help people who have bad timing here...
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
@stefano This is why I always want to write platform-native software in (safe) C++ on Linux (or BSD variants, Haiku OS, including any other UNIX-like OS). I’m not talking heavyweight code, but small hobby projects. C might be more efficient, but I’m much better at C++. I am first and foremost someone who writes native software for Apple platforms, which includes macOS, but lately in terms of GUIs I have gotten more interest in learning qt or GTK. I have rookie knowledge about wxWidgets.
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@stefano
Sorry my mistake@post_reader no problem!
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I promised it, so here it is. This is a recording of littleFedi running on a Raspberry Pi Zero W on NetBSD.
Everything is on the SD card, the database is SQLite, and caching is enabled.
Personally, I won't comment on responsiveness or anything else; I'll just say that when I use it (both via the web interface and with apps like MastoBlaster or IceCubes), I find it hard to believe what kind of hardware it's running on.
Users' sessions (by default, a maximum of 8 users but configurable) are kept "warm" with every interaction or federated activity for 15 minutes since the last login; after that, the server enters "low power mode" and simply processes incoming data without activating the (users' timelines, etc.) cache.
We don't need to get ripped off for more powerful hardware, which comes with outrageous costs these days.
We just need to optimize and build efficient software.
Abundance led to waste.
#littleFedi #NetBSD #RunBSD #OwnYourData #Optimize #ScreenCapture #Fediverse
@stefano
No way! RPi Zero W (the 32 bit one?)This is beyond fantastic! I really wanted something small and capable of using old/spare hardware. Currently, I have an old OnePlus5T running #GoToSocial (Postgres + Split domain) on #postmarketos
I feel modern software development neglects / underestimates older hardware. I mean even #pihole with a large blocklist running on #DietPi makes the RPi0 sluggish.
If LittleFedi can work on #postmarketos , a LOT of phone hardware can be revalorised!
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@stefano
No way! RPi Zero W (the 32 bit one?)This is beyond fantastic! I really wanted something small and capable of using old/spare hardware. Currently, I have an old OnePlus5T running #GoToSocial (Postgres + Split domain) on #postmarketos
I feel modern software development neglects / underestimates older hardware. I mean even #pihole with a large blocklist running on #DietPi makes the RPi0 sluggish.
If LittleFedi can work on #postmarketos , a LOT of phone hardware can be revalorised!
@ajayiyer yes, the arm v6
It’s compiling for Android/arm64, but I haven’t tried it on postmarketOS
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