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FEP-2345: fediverse:creator

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  • gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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    Hello! First time submitting a FEP myself. This one is for a feature Mastodon has had since July 2024, which is fairly popular among bloggers and journalists.

    Often, the author of a website is present on the social media platform where the links to the website are being shared. However, usually there is no quick way to navigate to the author's social media profile from the link preview. Being able to navigate to the social media profile of a website's author from that website's link preview is a win-win situation for the author and for the platform. This FEP defines a new meta property fediverse:creator which can appear in the section of any website.

    PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/893

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    • gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

      Hello! First time submitting a FEP myself. This one is for a feature Mastodon has had since July 2024, which is fairly popular among bloggers and journalists.

      Often, the author of a website is present on the social media platform where the links to the website are being shared. However, usually there is no quick way to navigate to the author's social media profile from the link preview. Being able to navigate to the social media profile of a website's author from that website's link preview is a win-win situation for the author and for the platform. This FEP defines a new meta property fediverse:creator which can appear in the section of any website.

      PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/893

      boiert@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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      How would this feature translate to a single user instance?

      I'm thinking of the case where we would rather have the linking site/instance embed the content as a quote. As more websites should become ActivityPub enabled or aware this seems like a solution for a transition period. I hope.

      Thank you for the time of putting it down to paper though! And we will definitely look for a proper place to apply it in the meantime since the actual reality of the matter is, not everyone is ready for it yet.

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      • gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

        Hello! First time submitting a FEP myself. This one is for a feature Mastodon has had since July 2024, which is fairly popular among bloggers and journalists.

        Often, the author of a website is present on the social media platform where the links to the website are being shared. However, usually there is no quick way to navigate to the author's social media profile from the link preview. Being able to navigate to the social media profile of a website's author from that website's link preview is a win-win situation for the author and for the platform. This FEP defines a new meta property fediverse:creator which can appear in the section of any website.

        PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/893

        silverpill@mitra.social
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        The content attribute is to contain the WebFinger handle of the author's fediverse profile, i.e. username and domain separated by an @-symbol. A leading @ can be included and ignored when processing. This format was chosen for its user-friendliness, as this style of handle is what users would be used to seeing and typing when using most fediverse software.

        This choice was criticized a lot when the feature was introduced. Meta tags are primarily read by machines, not humans, so user-friendliness shouldn't be a concern. Reliability, on the other hand, is worth taking into consideration. preferredUsername and the user part of a handle can be changed at any time. Actor ID is a more stable identifier and in my opinion is a better match for the fediverse:creator tag.

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        • silverpill@mitra.social silverpill@mitra.social

          The content attribute is to contain the WebFinger handle of the author's fediverse profile, i.e. username and domain separated by an @-symbol. A leading @ can be included and ignored when processing. This format was chosen for its user-friendliness, as this style of handle is what users would be used to seeing and typing when using most fediverse software.

          This choice was criticized a lot when the feature was introduced. Meta tags are primarily read by machines, not humans, so user-friendliness shouldn't be a concern. Reliability, on the other hand, is worth taking into consideration. preferredUsername and the user part of a handle can be changed at any time. Actor ID is a more stable identifier and in my opinion is a better match for the fediverse:creator tag.

          gargron@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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          I understand the criticism. My reasoning is that:

          • People who put OpenGraph tags into web pages are not necessarily developers themselves, e.g. WordPress users who are putting information into a plugin UI, or editing an existing theme
          • ActivityPub URIs can be ambigous from the user's perspective, for example, the "pretty" URL that shows the web version might not be the URI, in some software the URI uses a numeric ID (or UUID) of the account instead of the username, from which you can not gleam which account it refers to at a glance.
          • Typing username@domain when composing to refer to accounts is predominant on the fediverse, most people who put their fediverse account in promotional material (e.g. event flyers etc) also use this convention instead of using an ActivityPub URI, so it is very familiar to most people.

          Unfortunately, because this FEP describes a feature that is already out there in the wild, there's not much we can change about this without breaking compatibility with existing websites. At best, we could say the value could be the Webfinger handle or the ActivityPub URI.

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