I would like to give an update on "federation" on Bluesky
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Oh, and let's consider, for a moment, the downsides of an individual user being able to "opt out" of moderation decisions. The problem with misbehavior on social media is force multipliers. One person harassing you is no problem; one person and their 3000 friends is a big problem. Imagine Bluesky and Blacksky ban user X but Trumpsky lets X keep posting. Now their 3000 friends— still in Bluesky's good graces— can see their posts calling to harass you, AND can zero-friction zip over to yell at you
@mcc So far, I have been banned on Instagram, X and Bluesky. I am a serious misbehavior, but I don't harass anyone.
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This is why—although, now Blacksky is letting me "see through" Bluesky's worst moderation decisions, I'm glad, because Bluesky's moderation is weird and arbitrary—I think it's a downside of the network, and Mastodon made the right decision not offering this feature. Fediverse defederation forces a degree of soft group consensus on moderation: it's possible to say "if you're talking to X, I don't want to talk to *you*". On Bluesky we are all ghosts walking through walls and this can't be enforced
@mcc I read your thread only now, and I wanted to thank you for posting all that. I am no fan of Bluesky and their one-instance federation, but I have a phony account there, to follow how it's going for them. Threads like yours fill in additional context. 🙏
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:frogsiren: BLUESKY HAS OFFICIALLY NETSPLIT :frogsiren:
There has always been more than one Fediverse. Different instances make different moderation decisions so some instances can't see posts by some users.
There has only ever been one Bluesky because every ATProto frontend uses the same Appview.
It is January 2026 and that's no longer true; Blacksky's Appview is available for beta use and there is at least 1 user banned on Bluesky but not Blacksky. And vice versa.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:w4xbfzo7kqfes5zb7r6qv3rw/post/3mcozwdhjos2b
@mcc What's the monthly cost on maintaining several terabytes of data in perpetuity?
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@mcc What's the monthly cost on maintaining several terabytes of data in perpetuity?
@lrhodes Depends on how you do it I imagine. But remember that's several terabytes for the like what, three years or something Bluesky has been running. We will expect it to grow endlessly, and we should expect the growth to grow endlessly as Bluesky becomes more popular.
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@lrhodes Depends on how you do it I imagine. But remember that's several terabytes for the like what, three years or something Bluesky has been running. We will expect it to grow endlessly, and we should expect the growth to grow endlessly as Bluesky becomes more popular.
@mcc Yeah. I don't see how that's sustainable. I'm not sure it's even sustainable for Bluesky.
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What I saw happen when Black Twitter came to Fediverse is attempts to build community resources— like shared cross-instance blocklist infrastructure— get demonized by white queers as being anti-queer (because they, personally, wound up moderated— due to, as far as I saw, entirely real racism). I saw multiple projects shut down or hobbled by this and good people driven off fedi. I don't know if any devs from that era are involved in the new Bluesky efforts. But the Bluesky efforts *are* thriving.
@mcc sad stuff 😢 Thanks for the history lesson and analysis.
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@gbargoud Sure. You could do that. I'm aware of a patch to the PDS (backend) software that allows it to flat out publish via ActivityPub. I haven't seen a *frontend* that merges the streams yet though.
There's also the problem that you can't reeeallly monitor *just part* of the Bluesky network. To follow part of it you're supposed to drink the entire firehose and filter out the parts you care about.
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This post is 4 months old hehe.
At this moment we are making our own red dwarf style post fetching, wich is done directly on the PDS
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This post is 4 months old hehe.
At this moment we are making our own red dwarf style post fetching, wich is done directly on the PDS
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@mcc @gbargoud cc'ing @gabboman who has integrated bluesky and blacksky and activitypub into one timeline/account on #WAFRN
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@77nn @oblomov I recently got a router/gateway to a new ISP. They have intentionally nerfed the web interface to force your user of a phone 'cr'app. I managed to re- enable the main login with their 'cr'app, yet the latest update nerfed other pages.
IMO this is just enshittification.
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@RadioAzureus Take care of yourself!
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@oblomov
However. I'll still keep an older Android phone for banking and public administration applications, but just because most of those apps are mobile-only. I never needed an home banking app on my phone, but, it seems that some banks make it impossible to avoid it. I never needed school or e-signature apps or even medical apps on my phone, even if recon that those may be useful for someone. But they shall not be available only on phones.
