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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netundefined jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    It's the internet, people. It's OUR internet. Just because we decided to trust Google to not be evil doesn't mean that Google decides the future of the internet. We may very well have lost The Web, but we still can make the Internet of People. Decentralised. Unownable ;) Being here on the #Fediverse is part of that.

    #AlwayswTheOptimist

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    @jwildeboer even the web is not lost.
    We just need to change the reference.
    Google is not the reference of the web anymore since they want to kill it.

    Buy independent website still work, we can bring webrings or federated web search like Searx, or newer idea.

    We should just stop using Google. It's hard, but it's feasible, and also, it's getting less and less hard as it's such a piece of utter garbage nowadays…

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netundefined jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      It's the internet, people. It's OUR internet. Just because we decided to trust Google to not be evil doesn't mean that Google decides the future of the internet. We may very well have lost The Web, but we still can make the Internet of People. Decentralised. Unownable ;) Being here on the #Fediverse is part of that.

      #AlwayswTheOptimist

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      @jwildeboer
      yeah, but internet without a proper search engine sucks.. and creating a new one that finds all the relevant information of the last decades (but ideally not the slop) won't be easy

      BUT - maybe it could be done with the data of archive.org?
      would have further advantage of finding pages that are down

      well, and something that indexes current relevant stuff, which, given the avalanche of slop on the current net, would best be curated by humans

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netundefined jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        It's the internet, people. It's OUR internet. Just because we decided to trust Google to not be evil doesn't mean that Google decides the future of the internet. We may very well have lost The Web, but we still can make the Internet of People. Decentralised. Unownable ;) Being here on the #Fediverse is part of that.

        #AlwayswTheOptimist

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        @jwildeboer We need to invent some kind of decentralized search engine that is useful to all of us (i.e. we can't just crawl whatever)

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        • dolanor@hachyderm.ioundefined dolanor@hachyderm.io

          @jwildeboer even the web is not lost.
          We just need to change the reference.
          Google is not the reference of the web anymore since they want to kill it.

          Buy independent website still work, we can bring webrings or federated web search like Searx, or newer idea.

          We should just stop using Google. It's hard, but it's feasible, and also, it's getting less and less hard as it's such a piece of utter garbage nowadays…

          theothersimo@mastodon.socialundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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          @dolanor @jwildeboer the passive-user web is over, though. Navigating the living web requires effort, and supporting the living web will cost money.

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          • doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeundefined doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @jwildeboer
            yeah, but internet without a proper search engine sucks.. and creating a new one that finds all the relevant information of the last decades (but ideally not the slop) won't be easy

            BUT - maybe it could be done with the data of archive.org?
            would have further advantage of finding pages that are down

            well, and something that indexes current relevant stuff, which, given the avalanche of slop on the current net, would best be curated by humans

            w@11n.orgundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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            I'd settle for a new edition of the Internet Yellow Pages

            CC: @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netundefined jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              It's the internet, people. It's OUR internet. Just because we decided to trust Google to not be evil doesn't mean that Google decides the future of the internet. We may very well have lost The Web, but we still can make the Internet of People. Decentralised. Unownable ;) Being here on the #Fediverse is part of that.

              #AlwayswTheOptimist

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              @jwildeboer 🙇

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netundefined jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                It's the internet, people. It's OUR internet. Just because we decided to trust Google to not be evil doesn't mean that Google decides the future of the internet. We may very well have lost The Web, but we still can make the Internet of People. Decentralised. Unownable ;) Being here on the #Fediverse is part of that.

                #AlwayswTheOptimist

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                @jwildeboer

                I'm of the opinion that organizations that are trying to turn the open internet into yet another walled garden should be thrown off every standards committee and RFC working group.

                Why would we want Google to continue choosing the direction that browser standards go?

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                • astropug@hachyderm.ioundefined astropug@hachyderm.io

                  @jwildeboer

                  I’d like to think of us all as digital velociraptors. Smaller than a t-Rex, maybe with feathers, but we will find a way.

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                  @astroPug @jwildeboer Not velociraptors. They died out. Think of us as Asteriornis, Wonderchickens.

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                  • artharg@mastodon.nlundefined artharg@mastodon.nl

                    @astroPug @jwildeboer Not velociraptors. They died out. Think of us as Asteriornis, Wonderchickens.

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                    @ArtHarg @jwildeboer

                    How could anyone resist something called a wonderchicken?

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                    • starsider@valenciapa.wsundefined starsider@valenciapa.ws

                      @jwildeboer We need to invent some kind of decentralized search engine that is useful to all of us (i.e. we can't just crawl whatever)

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                      @starsider @jwildeboer https://yacy.net

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