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  4. Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

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    #1

    Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

    Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

    I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

    For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

    #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

      Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

      Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

      I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

      For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

      #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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      #2

      Sources:

      Blacksky: https://bsky.app/profile/rude1.blacksky.team/post/3mcozwdhjos2b

      Eurosky: https://bsky.app/profile/sherif.eurosky.social/post/3mdzsno2cds2f

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      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

        Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

        Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

        I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

        For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

        #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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        And I know, some of you don't care, you want to keep the fediverse toxic and unwelcoming, I guess that's fine. It's just a shame.

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

          Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

          I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

          For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

          #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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          #4

          On the other hand, apparently Bluesky suspended dril?

          Fedi admins, get ready!

          https://bsky.app/profile/stefanheck.bsky.social/post/3me2a4lwk6s2x

          https://bsky.app/profile/samio.bsky.social/post/3me2aojkzg22h

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          • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

            And I know, some of you don't care, you want to keep the fediverse toxic and unwelcoming, I guess that's fine. It's just a shame.

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            @stefan Everyone's version of toxic and unwelcoming seems to be different, so they join tribes where they can be toxic and unwelcoming to anyone they view as toxic and unwelcoming. One would wish everyone could just get along, but history seems to point to that being a chapter yet to be written.

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            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

              Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

              Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

              I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

              For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

              #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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              @stefan I like that things are becoming more federated. What makes me a bit sad is that we still can't all be online using the same protocol. But then again, that's nothing new, people have always been spread across different platforms anyway, Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter... without being able to communicate with each other.

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              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

                Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

                I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

                For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

                #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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                @stefan What did I miss with the Bluesky stuff? I'm seeing a lot of people close their bridge from Masto->Bsky down. Is it because bsky.social hosts ICE and such?

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                • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                  Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

                  Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

                  I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

                  For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

                  #fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

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                  @stefan interesting, I've been wanting to see who's on bluesky just cause of how much bigger the userbase is, but I've hesitated to create an account there knowing it might not last very long. Following bluesky users from mastodon seems clunky. Will be watching the rollout of these other ones though I am not Black or European

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                  • rolle@mementomori.socialundefined rolle@mementomori.social

                    @stefan I like that things are becoming more federated. What makes me a bit sad is that we still can't all be online using the same protocol. But then again, that's nothing new, people have always been spread across different platforms anyway, Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter... without being able to communicate with each other.

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                    @rolle I guess if the fediverse keeps pushing people away, and ATProto gains wide enough adoption, and it becomes easy to run your whole stack, I might just look into that.

                    Until then, I'll have to stick with the fediverse, as that's the only truly grassroots option.

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                    • incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netundefined incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net

                      @stefan What did I miss with the Bluesky stuff? I'm seeing a lot of people close their bridge from Masto->Bsky down. Is it because bsky.social hosts ICE and such?

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                      @incentive Yeah, that happened after Bluesky verified ICE.

                      But that's a bit shortsighted, because you'd be closing off yourself from Blacksky, and soon other independent ATProto/Atmosphere communities.

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                      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                        @incentive Yeah, that happened after Bluesky verified ICE.

                        But that's a bit shortsighted, because you'd be closing off yourself from Blacksky, and soon other independent ATProto/Atmosphere communities.

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                        @stefan I think it's possibly shortsighted too but I'm not going to judge anyone for feeling convicted and choosing that as their form of action.

                        Grateful for your post though, did not know about Blacksky until today. Something to read up on over lunch. 🤝

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                          @stefan interesting, I've been wanting to see who's on bluesky just cause of how much bigger the userbase is, but I've hesitated to create an account there knowing it might not last very long. Following bluesky users from mastodon seems clunky. Will be watching the rollout of these other ones though I am not Black or European

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                          @mllsc I'm not sure, but Blacksky might also be open to allies? Or maybe they host a separate PDS for those?

                          @jdp23 Do you happen to know?

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                          • incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netundefined incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net

                            @stefan I think it's possibly shortsighted too but I'm not going to judge anyone for feeling convicted and choosing that as their form of action.

                            Grateful for your post though, did not know about Blacksky until today. Something to read up on over lunch. 🤝

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                            @incentive Oh no, not judging either, I just wonder if those who disabled the bridge realize this, might not have taken that into account.

                            Some might know and not care, I guess.

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                              @incentive Oh no, not judging either, I just wonder if those who disabled the bridge realize this, might not have taken that into account.

                              Some might know and not care, I guess.

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                              @stefan For clarity did not mean to indicate you were judging anyone 🙏

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                              • incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netundefined incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net

                                @stefan For clarity did not mean to indicate you were judging anyone 🙏

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                                @incentive No worries, didn't think that, just clarifying for others!

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                                  On the other hand, apparently Bluesky suspended dril?

                                  Fedi admins, get ready!

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/stefanheck.bsky.social/post/3me2a4lwk6s2x

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/samio.bsky.social/post/3me2aojkzg22h

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                                  @stefan apparently their profile is back up again.

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                                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineundefined stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                    On the other hand, apparently Bluesky suspended dril?

                                    Fedi admins, get ready!

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/stefanheck.bsky.social/post/3me2a4lwk6s2x

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/samio.bsky.social/post/3me2aojkzg22h

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                                    @stefan Sadly(?), dril is already back.
                                    https://bsky.app/profile/dril.bsky.social/post/3me2e46t6xc2w

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                                    • neuralgraffiti@sfba.socialundefined neuralgraffiti@sfba.social

                                      @stefan Sadly(?), dril is already back.
                                      https://bsky.app/profile/dril.bsky.social/post/3me2e46t6xc2w

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                                      @stefan Whoops, I missed the interim conversation!

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                                      • mllsc@beige.partyundefined mllsc@beige.party

                                        @stefan interesting, I've been wanting to see who's on bluesky just cause of how much bigger the userbase is, but I've hesitated to create an account there knowing it might not last very long. Following bluesky users from mastodon seems clunky. Will be watching the rollout of these other ones though I am not Black or European

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                                        @mllsc @stefan there is also north sky https://bsky.app/profile/transrights.northsky.social

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                                        • katherine_montalto@zirk.usundefined katherine_montalto@zirk.us

                                          @mllsc @stefan there is also north sky https://bsky.app/profile/transrights.northsky.social

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                                          @katherine_montalto Yeah, the Atmosphere is definitely growing.

                                          @mllsc

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