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Is there any incompatibility between NodeBB and Mobilizon?

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  • informapirata@community.nodebb.orgundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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    Good evening everyone.
    Mobilizon is an interesting alternative to EventBrite developed by the French collective Framasoft.
    I recently noticed that NodeBB can't see #Mobilizon events.
    Of course, I didn't expect NodeBB to be able to see and manage events (mark them as accepted, rejected, or "unclear"), like Friendica, for example.
    Mastodon, however, while it can't "manage" events, can view them and allows you to follow the users who publish them.

    I've noticed that NodeBB can't see Friendica events either, nor those produced by the federated platform "Gancio."

    Can anyone explain to me what could be causing this incompatibility? Is it a "protection" feature of NodeBB, or a problem with the format in which #ActivityPub events are published?

    Have a good evening, and thanks in advance.

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      Good evening everyone.
      Mobilizon is an interesting alternative to EventBrite developed by the French collective Framasoft.
      I recently noticed that NodeBB can't see #Mobilizon events.
      Of course, I didn't expect NodeBB to be able to see and manage events (mark them as accepted, rejected, or "unclear"), like Friendica, for example.
      Mastodon, however, while it can't "manage" events, can view them and allows you to follow the users who publish them.

      I've noticed that NodeBB can't see Friendica events either, nor those produced by the federated platform "Gancio."

      Can anyone explain to me what could be causing this incompatibility? Is it a "protection" feature of NodeBB, or a problem with the format in which #ActivityPub events are published?

      Have a good evening, and thanks in advance.

      julian@community.nodebb.orgundefined This user is from outside of this forum
      julian@community.nodebb.orgundefined This user is from outside of this forum
      julian@community.nodebb.org
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      #2

      Hello again informapirata!

      It depends what kind of activity they send over. Most likely we just haven't cleared it for processing by NodeBB.

      Any object type that we don't recognize we ignore for now, but there's no reason we can't look into it and clear it 🙂

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      • informapirata@community.nodebb.orgundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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        Thanks for your reply, julian

        For what it's worth, I agree with this approach.
        Mobilizon events are certainly one of the most interesting implementations of the Fediverse and are extremely important for offering a user experience that can do without Facebook, just as the evolution of federated NodeBB represents a significant step forward in creating an alternative to Facebook groups (we're trying to do this in Italy with citiverse.it...).

        However, some of Mobilizon's limitations (Mobilizon events are one-way: they're visible from the Fediverse and can even be managed with Friendica, but—for example—it's not yet possible to create a Mobilizon event from Friendica) and the critical issues in managing events for "generalist" platforms (I recall the problems, later resolved, that Friendica had with uncontrolled event sharing: all it took was for an account to follow an event account and all its followers would find it in their calendars... :confounded: ) make it appropriate to think very carefully and cautiously about the integration roadmap.

        For the rest, thank you for your promptness and willingness to respond to users who ask for clarification!

        Best regards,
        Francesco

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        • informapirata@community.nodebb.orgundefined informapirata@community.nodebb.org

          Thanks for your reply, julian

          For what it's worth, I agree with this approach.
          Mobilizon events are certainly one of the most interesting implementations of the Fediverse and are extremely important for offering a user experience that can do without Facebook, just as the evolution of federated NodeBB represents a significant step forward in creating an alternative to Facebook groups (we're trying to do this in Italy with citiverse.it...).

          However, some of Mobilizon's limitations (Mobilizon events are one-way: they're visible from the Fediverse and can even be managed with Friendica, but—for example—it's not yet possible to create a Mobilizon event from Friendica) and the critical issues in managing events for "generalist" platforms (I recall the problems, later resolved, that Friendica had with uncontrolled event sharing: all it took was for an account to follow an event account and all its followers would find it in their calendars... :confounded: ) make it appropriate to think very carefully and cautiously about the integration roadmap.

          For the rest, thank you for your promptness and willingness to respond to users who ask for clarification!

          Best regards,
          Francesco

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          informapirata I am not certain whether Mobilizon publishes FEPs for how they use the Event activity. That would help, otherwise I would be reverse engineering their implementation, and that is not the easiest approach.

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            informapirata I am not certain whether Mobilizon publishes FEPs for how they use the Event activity. That would help, otherwise I would be reverse engineering their implementation, and that is not the easiest approach.

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          • informapirata@community.nodebb.orgundefined
            informapirata@community.nodebb.org

            Thanks for your reply, julian

            For what it's worth, I agree with this approach.
            Mobilizon events are certainly one of the most interesting implementations of the Fediverse and are extremely important for offering a user experience that can do without Facebook, just as the evolution of federated NodeBB represents a significant step forward in creating an alternative to Facebook groups (we're trying to do this in Italy with citiverse.it...).

            However, some of Mobilizon's limitations (Mobilizon events are one-way: they're visible from the Fediverse and can even be managed with Friendica, but—for example—it's not yet possible to create a Mobilizon event from Friendica) and the critical issues in managing events for "generalist" platforms (I recall the problems, later resolved, that Friendica had with uncontrolled event sharing: all it took was for an account to follow an event account and all its followers would find it in their calendars... :confounded: ) make it appropriate to think very carefully and cautiously about the integration roadmap.

            For the rest, thank you for your promptness and willingness to respond to users who ask for clarification!

            Best regards,
            Francesco

            read more

          • julian@community.nodebb.orgundefined
            julian@community.nodebb.org

            Hello again informapirata!

            It depends what kind of activity they send over. Most likely we just haven't cleared it for processing by NodeBB.

            Any object type that we don't recognize we ignore for now, but there's no reason we can't look into it and clear it 🙂

            read more

          • informapirata@community.nodebb.orgundefined
            informapirata@community.nodebb.org

            Good evening everyone.
            Mobilizon is an interesting alternative to EventBrite developed by the French collective Framasoft.
            I recently noticed that NodeBB can't see #Mobilizon events.
            Of course, I didn't expect NodeBB to be able to see and manage events (mark them as accepted, rejected, or "unclear"), like Friendica, for example.
            Mastodon, however, while it can't "manage" events, can view them and allows you to follow the users who publish them.

            I've noticed that NodeBB can't see Friendica events either, nor those produced by the federated platform "Gancio."

            Can anyone explain to me what could be causing this incompatibility? Is it a "protection" feature of NodeBB, or a problem with the format in which #ActivityPub events are published?

            Have a good evening, and thanks in advance.

            read more
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