Good morning Fedi friends!

[bovaz@misskey.social]

@_elena@mastodon.social I'm also on the "HAPE" boat...

I'm bad at design, and don't know what kind of freedom you may have with the design, so spitballing here:
What about having the t-shit as an entirely flat color, with the logo centered, either
- small, just under the neck
- center of chest area
- small, right on the navel (this is weird, but definitely different than anything I've seen from other tech swag)

maybe write something ("hope", or even "fediverse") around the neck, or the hems.

[frankdmt90@mastodon.uno]

@thisislieven @_elena other alternative is the fediverse logo as P hole.. 🤣

[thisislieven@c.im]

@FrankDmt90

Like so? I don't hate it but the focus is on the word rather than the logo, which feels like the wrong balance to me.

@_elena

[bschelm@mastodon.social]

@_elena I would buy it.

[thisislieven@c.im]

@FrankDmt90

Actually... (what do you mean, I should get to work?). Building on that idea, this might work.

(I shall stop spamming the thread now)

@_elena

[kimlockhartga@beige.party]

@_elena need an option for I love it! 😃

[edgeofeurope@mastodon.social]

@_elena To me, that reads like HAPE. Sarry, eh I mean sorry.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@_elena

maybe add some extra smaller text, like "join the fediverse" underneath, i don't know

my reasoning:

you know what the symbol means, i know what the symbol means, but most people do not. so putting a little education into the design is just the right bit of extra, i think

(and i know it's for berlin fedi day, and they will know, but it gives the t shirt some extra potential for other contexts, and any media disseminated some extra oomph)

[kaischi@mstdn.social]

@mjj @_elena
I can second that, butmy first reading was *HYPE* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[olberger@mastodon.ouvaton.coop]

@_elena Could it be HYPE, too ?

[mjj@mstdn.dk]

@danyork @_elena I think the regular symbol is just fine. I don't think the guided discovery process of having to look at it more than one and think is a bad thing.

[frankdmt90@mastodon.uno]

@thisislieven @_elena maybe you're right!! 🤣 Second version seems balanced!!

[das_g@chaos.social]

@thisislieven Maybe rotate (or color-swap) it, so that the green disk or the bright blue disk are the «O»?

Those two colors (symbolizing plant growth and a clear day sky or something, respectively) traditionally represent hope in western culture(s). (As seen e.g. also in the respective flags/logos and accent colors of the international language Esperanto and of the United Nations Organization.)

@_elena

[das_g@chaos.social]

@thisislieven (Though vibrant yellow can also stand for the hope sunshine brings, and the Fediverse logo probably looks best with the bright, warm colors on top.)

@_elena

[siro@snowfan.it]

@danyork
In this article the 2010 icon, Federated Social Web Logo, shows how logos are perfectly functional as monocrome.

I'm not saying that it's enough to remove colours from the current logo to let it work, cause it will remain too much symmetrical, while this basic problem has been solved (by a designer?) in the old one.

@_elena
@mjj

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@BjornW I can always count on you Bjorn for great and honest feedback. Thank you!!! ❤️

[thisislieven@c.im]

@das_g That would require really altering the original logo, which is a no-go? Given how it's tilted the only other option I see would be to do HOPE vertical with the green dot as the O but I don't think that would look good.

I understand the colour theory though, but I think you can make an argument for each colour. Red could be a call to action, purple is a colour of diversity and unity.

Yellow just happens to be the one on top.

@_elena

[defolos@mastodon.social]

@_elena I love, I need it, please make it a thing 🙏

[twiglet@social.vivaldi.net]

@_elena would you be allowed to put a row of fedi project logos below it? Though I suppose then people would pick at the order, so maybe it is just better to leave them off. I like it 😀

[mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@_elena

Maybe I'm being dense here:

Is HOPE related to Hackers on Planet Earth (or something else), or it related to the title of your talk?

All capitals makes me think abbreviation.

https://ctalx.c-base.org/fediday-2026/schedule/