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  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @mttaggart "That's it, I'm leaving coding! I'm going to go do $X task"

    I've got bad news for you about how people are trying to automate $X task

    Mondo

  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @mttaggart The next step is obvious: the machines are so prolific, you feel like you are wasting time by trying to be that heavily involved. Besides they're getting pretty good at their own review, anyway right? Let them write their own guardrails and do their own review. And then you don't review things, not even in large chunks. Full vibecoding.

    Mondo

  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    Is that pushing the goalposts? It may be. I think "slop" used to be easier to dismiss when it came to code because it was obviously bad. Now when it's bad, it's non-obviously bad, which is part of its own problem. And cognitive debt, deskilling, and etc don't get factored into the quality of output aspect.

    But unfortunately, the immediate reward aspects of these things are going to make it hard for society to recognize.

    Mondo

  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    There are a lot of other concerns but I think since a lot of people on the fediverse are opposed to these tools, they might not be very familiar with where they're currently at ability-wise. @mttaggart provides a good description that they *are* capable of solving many problems you put in front of them... and that doesn't remove the other problems they generate or involved in their process.

    The slop part isn't just the individual outputs, but the cumulation, and the effect on society itself.

    Mondo

  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    What I think is also good about the piece is that it shows how using this tech eventually funnels people down a particular direction. This is captured also by this exchange on lobste.rs: https://lobste.rs/s/7d8dxv/i_used_ai_it_worked_i_hated_it#c_7jirfk

    The story that people start with vs where they go is very different:

    - They're really just for experts, and are assistants, they don't write the code for you
    - Okay the write a lot of the code for me, but I personally don't commit anything without reviewing
    - YOLO mode

    Which eventually leads you to becoming the drinky bird pressing the Y key from that Simpsons episode. (Funnily enough I wrote that in my comment on lobste.rs in reply to someone else before I had even gotten to the point where I saw that @mttaggart literally had that gif)

    And at that point, you're checked out. All that's left is vibes.

    And unfortunately, these systems don't survive that point very well. And neither do you, in your skills and abilities.

    Mondo

  • "I used AI. It worked.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    "I used AI. It worked. I hated it." by @mttaggart https://taggart-tech.com/reckoning/

    This is a really good blogpost. And I"m sure it'll make some people unhappy to read whether they're pro or anti genAI. What's good about @mttaggart's blogpost is he talks honestly about how using Claude Code did actually solve the problem he set out to do. It needed various guardrails, but they were possible to set up, and the project worked. But the post is also completely clear and honest about how miserable it was:

    - It removed the joy from the process
    - If you aim to do the right thing and carefully evaluate the output, your job ends up eventually becoming "tapping the Y key"
    - Ramifications on people learning things
    - Plenty of other ethical analysis
    - And the nagging wonder whether to use it next time, despite it being miserable.

    I think this is important, because it *is* true that these tools are getting to the point where they can accomplish a lot of tasks, but the caveat space is very large (cotd)

    Mondo

  • I should eat food, I should get food and eat it
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @phloxulent horray I am thrilled to hear it

    not my idea or technique but glad to share it

    Mondo

  • What if this was just one key
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @thomasfuchs they have the one-key version already. They have hackerspaces where you can go try them out with friends

    Mondo

  • OpenClaw is averaging 1.8 CVEs *PER DAY* https://days-since-openclaw-cve.com/
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @lunathemoongirl Indeed, OpenClaw is a CVE

    Mondo

  • I should eat food, I should get food and eat it
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    I could eat food I made myself but I have done that for about a week and a half and I am sick of my own self-made food solutions

    Mondo

  • I should eat food, I should get food and eat it
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    I should eat food, I should get food and eat it

    Mondo

  • @Kye There were also multiple hugely attended social devrooms at FOSDEM.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @Kye There were also multiple hugely attended social devrooms at FOSDEM. 2025's in particular was one of the biggest lecture halls at FOSDEM, and the room was filled!

    I think there's a lot that's happened. But the fediverse is scrappier, more spread out. That's partly Conway's Law in action, I suppose.

    Mondo

  • @Kye There were two APconfs, 2019 and 2020.
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @Kye There were two APconfs, 2019 and 2020. There have been quite a number of events since, (Berlin Fediverse Day, Fediform, etc) but yes, I do think it's true that the fediverse shouldn't underestimate the amount of energy is in the ATmosphere right now

    Mondo

  • OpenClaw is averaging 1.8 CVEs *PER DAY* https://days-since-openclaw-cve.com/
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    By the way, I encourage browsing through the CVEs reported https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/search#/nvd/home?keyword=openclaw&resultType=records

    These are by and large not minor CVEs.

    Mondo

  • OpenClaw is averaging 1.8 CVEs *PER DAY* https://days-since-openclaw-cve.com/
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    OpenClaw also got a terrifying privilege escalation vulnerability https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2026-33579

    Meanwhile the OpenClaw founder is claiming shush, it's no big deal, probably most of these aren't really exploitable! (There's good business interest reasons to argue that, since OpenClaw's founders got acquired by OpenAI) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47629849

    Okay. I know I have more than a few security researchers following me. There's a public list of literally hundreds of thousands of publicly accessible OpenClaw instances right here: https://openclaw.allegro.earth/

    Anyone try taking a sampling of them and testing how vulnerable against recent escalation CVEs they are? Could be a rather juicy writeup!

    Mondo

  • OpenClaw is averaging 1.8 CVEs *PER DAY* https://days-since-openclaw-cve.com/
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    OpenClaw is averaging 1.8 CVEs *PER DAY* https://days-since-openclaw-cve.com/

    That's... wow. New high score!

    Mondo

  • Hack & Craft today!
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    Hack & Craft today! From 8pm-10pm ET!

    https://fossandcrafts.org/hack-and-craft/

    Bring a coding project, bring a crafting project! Cya there!

    Mondo

  • @psykose auto tools
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @cmdrmoto @undefined @ptrc @psykose ๐Ÿ’œ

    Mondo

  • @psykose auto tools
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    @cmdrmoto @undefined @ptrc @psykose It's a parody of the Far Side "Cow Tools" comic but with GNU as the head and the tools have been replaced with GNU Autotools output

    Mondo

  • Eric Raymond's famous book "The Cathedral and the Strip Mall"
    cwebber@social.coopundefined cwebber@social.coop

    Eric Raymond's famous book "The Cathedral and the Strip Mall"

    Mondo
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