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@glyph @mario_angst_sci I generally avoid getting into arguments about specific executives or policies or whatever. I just think that people who work on societal good should actually be rewarded for doing so, and as far as I'm aware Mozilla exec salaries are still on the low end compared to other household-name tech companies.

And I understand it's a difficult problem: other companies can make huge stock grants to avoid needing to actually pay out hard cash, and Mozilla does not have that option. But I also know what I was making when I worked there, and what my peers at not-even-Big-Tech companies were making, and it really does get to me.

@glyph I find that on sites like newgrounds a lot of things that just show a blank square of no content in Safari will work in Firefox. Don't know why that is, just that it is. Maybe it's my own settings impacting that, but I still have a pretty locked-down Firefox setup, so I'm skeptical that Safari is somehow even more restrictive.

@mario_angst_sci @glyph Even though it's been over ten years now since my last day at Mozilla, I still get irritated whenever salaries are brought up like this.

As just a developer (not an executive), after Mozilla I literally doubled my salary overnight by accepting a job with an ordinary for-profit company. And while you didn't mean it this way, what it feels like when a lot of people complain about Mozilla people getting paid is "you should have been happy to be significantly underpaid during some of your prime earning years, because you were working on an Important Societal Mission and that's more important than money".

And I extend that to discussions of executive pay. Demanding that people be underpaid relative to peers "for the misson" will always bother me.

Or more bluntly: if someone thinks working on important things has to involve being paid less (or even completely unpaid, as is too often the case with open source), I invite them to be the one who does it.

@glyph I used to run Firefox as my day-to-day browser, but I decided to give Safari a try when upgrading my laptop a while back and was pleasantly surprised by it.

The fact that anyone who cares about mobile (which is everybody) is forced by Apple's iOS policies into testing on Safari means I see fewer sites break than before, and while the privacy controls aren't as fine-grained or powerful as Firefox they still offer what I think is a reasonable baseline. Performance is also decent, and the battery-life impact is hard to beat.

I still keep Firefox installed, and I still use it for some things (especially browser-based games), but I'd say my usage of it has dropped probably 80% or more.

@glyph I’ve been avoiding this ever since discovering elpy doesn’t work on Python >3.9 (IIRC)

@krans @morgan @glyph

*tips Fedora*

m’Achine

@glyph Upside: fewer people using Windows and all the shady user-hostile stuff it does.

Downside: Gamers™️ will develop opinions about systemd.