The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853
The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.
I am reasonably sure the math does not work for this to be a deliberate attempt to get the world hooked on remote services.
If that is your goal, it would be cheaper to make it near-free for 5-10 years, driving OEM out of business. Instead, this juices production, R&D.
I do not know what *is* driving it, though. Perhaps quantum arms races? Internet redundancy/duplication? Remember PRISM? caused the same sort of bubble.
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@cstross i've been using the same computer with the youngest part being 10 years old, and the oldest 15 for 12 years they didn't need to end moore's law for that or whatever other conspiracy stuff
@Gnuxie Businesses figure on replacing the PCs on their staff desktops every 2 years. Long habit from the 80s/90s and an expectation that company kit will be hammered hard.
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@Gnuxie Businesses figure on replacing the PCs on their staff desktops every 2 years. Long habit from the 80s/90s and an expectation that company kit will be hammered hard.
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@negative12dollarbill @blogdiva Yes, but first I have to *earn* the money. (I'm still in a rough patch financially following a year of downtime due to COVID then finishing a series of novels that had dwindling sales before spinning up a new series, because: COVID and age-related decline in energy.)
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@dresstokilt @cstross "Every accusation is a confession" is not limited to skeevy remarks and musings about genocide. Pretty much everything ever said about the perils of communism also counts.
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@dresstokilt @cstross "Every accusation is a confession" is not limited to skeevy remarks and musings about genocide. Pretty much everything ever said about the perils of communism also counts.
@graydon @dresstokilt Yep: it is glaringly obvious today that "the menace of the communist international conspiracy!!!" was 100% right-wing projection (of what they wished they could get away with, or what—once the Heritage Foundation got going—of what they were actively trying to achieve).
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@dresstokilt please learn the difference between personal property and private property before fearmongering about who is coming to take what from whom, it is the capitalists who are coming after personal property and the only people who fear the abolition of private property are themselves actual or aspiring despots @graydon @cstross
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I just noticed I have 18Tb of storage plugged into my desktop (a laptop with its own 2Tb of built-in SSD) and WTF am I doing with it all?!?
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@dresstokilt please learn the difference between personal property and private property before fearmongering about who is coming to take what from whom, it is the capitalists who are coming after personal property and the only people who fear the abolition of private property are themselves actual or aspiring despots @graydon @cstross
@Irenetherogue @graydon @cstross Here this might be helpful for you to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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@Irenetherogue @graydon @cstross Here this might be helpful for you to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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@jmtd @cstross @Gnuxie when I was at Red Hat years ago, I had a machine that was about three years old come up for refresh. It was 100% fine, and I had zero interest in going through the hassle of getting a new system set up at the time.
I could not, under any circumstances, avoid the refresh though. Mandatory due to leasing, etc. So annoying.
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@Irenetherogue @dresstokilt @graydon At least 2/3 of the people in the thread you just rudely barged into are not USAns. We understand and use sarcasm *and* irony. (And you're one toot away from a block right now.)
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@cstross I cannot agree enough, we gotta RAID SOME DATA CENTERS
@yugthebug @cstross, … just don't RAID0 them.
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The parts are bought by the OEMs as assemblies, and installed as assemblies. They aren't interested in fixing them as it's cheaper to use whole units that robots assemble.
No attempt to kill the aftermarket - the aftermarket is happy to sell whole wiper motors instead of almost zero profit bushings springs and brushes, and one part instead of 1000 per car.
Lots of things have changed, and may be anti consumer, not arguing that, but it's driven by costs and requirements.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853
The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.
Had this thought. Coupled with the recent statements about streaming all of your games. The goal is the end of ALL local storage and computing. Tech bros want it all server-side so they can manipulate what you see, what search results you get, what content you have access to and even whether you are “worthy” to use the service. Privacy and autonomy be damned.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853
The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.
@cstross except there's lots of evidence that we just have way too much demand way too suddenly. Computer component prices have followed a pattern for over 25 years that is suddenly changing so no, I don't believe its done on purpose.
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@MythicNation @hp @cstross Unless you need to run an up to the moment game, you do not need recent hardware.
This fanless browsing box is a second hand Optiplex 3000 thin client (Wyse 5070 is also good). It has 32GB RAM and 1TB NVMe. Not good for games though.
My main system is a dual Xeon system that is really high end - for 2013. Plus a 2017 graphics card.
My lounge gaming system does have a 2024 GPU, it is in a second hand workstation from 2018 and is fast enough to run VR.
I'm considering getting another workstation system, to run bleeding edge Unix releases. Likely to be a second hand 2016 workstation, cost of up to 300 quid.
There are disadvantages with this such as increased power consumption, proprietary power supplies and cabling, but it's often also possible to hack the BIOS to add in NVMe support and resizable BAR support if they're not included (obviously check before buying, and some Dell systems don't support turbo boost properly)
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853
The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.
@cstross this is also probably part of why companies aren’t gonna ramp up production to meet the bananapants AI demand - they’re betting the bubble will pop *and* non-bubble demand will go way down
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853
The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.
@cstross I think it’s even worse: Moore’s law has faltered (unsurprising, it’s an approximation) but the chipmakers have been tracking closer to it than predicted, only to see demand plateau before supply for the first time. That’s terrifying for an industry built on insatiable appetite.
I note a recent review of Samsung’s latest Galaxy: “you’d be hard-pressed to tell them apart from last year’s phones”. They’re using that “needed” extra silicon to … order Uber/DoorDash/GrubHub using an LLM.
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I just noticed I have 18Tb of storage plugged into my desktop (a laptop with its own 2Tb of built-in SSD) and WTF am I doing with it all?!?