Let's try this again.'n'nServer A users are not posting or boosting anything that is objectionable to Server B.'n'nBut Server A is federating with servers Server B does not like.

[contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org]

Let's try this again.

Server A users are not posting or boosting anything that is objectionable to Server B.

But Server A is federating with servers Server B does not like. [1]

How does this affect Server B in any way? Or, why would Server B cite this as a reason to defederate from Server A?

Is it merely a case of association fallacy? ("Server A federates with Bad Servers, therefore Server A must be a Bad Server.")

Or are there any legitimate problems Server A is causing for Server B?

[1] Usually because they find defederating to be too extreme for most situations, with too much collateral damage to innocent bystanders...so they use other means to block bad users.

EDIT: removed FediBlock hashtag

#Fediverse #ActivityPub #FediHelp

[wild1145@mastodonapp.uk]

@contrapunctus It's usually used as an indicator that if Server A doesn't see the issue with what Server B are posting there's a greater likelihood that if someone starts posting similar stuff on Server A to what you find issue with on Server B then they won't remove the content / suspend the user / moderate it in a way you deem acceptable.

With a lot of the more effective moderation being proactive rather than reactive having evidence that a server you federate with doesn't give a shit about content you don't want to see (For what ever reason) means a lot of folks don't want to deal with the likely future moderation headache of Server A.

But to answer the question I think you're also asking, the only real issue with Server A not suspending Server B is Server B could see replies Server A makes to your servers posts which may or may not be desirable, but again also depends on a load of other factors but for the most part it makes no difference to content visibility.

[ingalovinde@embracing.space]

@contrapunctus this depends on what exactly does "does not like" mean.
If A federates with B and C, then users on C (those who follow users on A) will see A's posts mentioning users on B on their timelines, and also A's part of conversations between A and B.
If C is, for example, kiwifarms, then this can put users of B in danger. (This can also put users of A in even more danger.)
And also "federating and associating with kiwifarms" does indeed allow one to draw some conclusions about those federating, even if it's by association. What does it say about moderator team of A if they federate with kiwifarms, have follower/following relationships with kiwifarms, and do not break them when informed about that?

[contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org]

@wild1145@mastodonapp.uk Thank you for this patient and informative explanation!

[contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org]

@IngaLovinde@embracing.space Thanks for this detailed explanation, it was just what I was looking for. 🙏