I got a new phone.
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@aeva No, but knowing the existence of replicas for old mac motherboards people can theoretically just download and ask their mousers and pcb ways to print would imply it is at least feasible to create a new Tangara from it's blueprints and bill of materials.
However, this feels like you're trying to angle the conversation in a way where you can lash out for suggesting that since the schematics and BOM's are FOSS, someone else could make a new run of devices on their own. So we're bailing out.
@zanagb no I just don't know how to do the thing you're suggesting, and am interested in information on how it works and what to expect for costs
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makes me wonder how hard it would be to build a mp3 player in a small white box with buttons halfassedly drawn on it. stuff an arduino into it. maybe there's some way to make the buttons work via capacitance?
@aeva OTOH what people really want is this.
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@zanagb no I just don't know how to do the thing you're suggesting, and am interested in information on how it works and what to expect for costs
@aeva Never had any experience asking one of these things as they aren't in our area. We looked into it specifically for the tangara. For costs we can't tell but for what it entails, if the retro macs are anything to go by, you could get 3D printed case sub-assemblies and can print a PCB based on the schematic with the option to have resistors,diodes and other off-the-shelf parts soldered, but apparently missing the big IC's. so some soldering may still be required. That's as far as we can read.
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@aeva Never had any experience asking one of these things as they aren't in our area. We looked into it specifically for the tangara. For costs we can't tell but for what it entails, if the retro macs are anything to go by, you could get 3D printed case sub-assemblies and can print a PCB based on the schematic with the option to have resistors,diodes and other off-the-shelf parts soldered, but apparently missing the big IC's. so some soldering may still be required. That's as far as we can read.
@zanagb do you know off hand if the design requires any surface mount soldering, or if it is all through-hole? I can do the 3D printing, and I can do some basic soldering, but I don't know how to fabricate PCBs and don't know how to do surface mount soldering (nor do I have a reflow setup)
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@aeva OTOH what people really want is this.
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i also like that this thing has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. i've got one set up to toggle on and off the flashlight function.
alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
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alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
tbh I was hoping there would be audio dongles with minimal extension out of the usb-c port that would wrap under the phone with something like a ribbon cable and put all the electronics there, but I didn't see anything like that on amazon so I assume there's probably a good reason that's not actually a thing.
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tbh I was hoping there would be audio dongles with minimal extension out of the usb-c port that would wrap under the phone with something like a ribbon cable and put all the electronics there, but I didn't see anything like that on amazon so I assume there's probably a good reason that's not actually a thing.
all of this feel really silly since my favorite headphones has a tasteful 60 degree L-bend with a springy reinforcement on the cable so I can stuff that son of a gun into pockets where there's really no space for the cable at all and have everything be fine.
definitely feeling buyer's remorse on the lack of headphone jack, but they didn't have anything in the store that had one
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all of this feel really silly since my favorite headphones has a tasteful 60 degree L-bend with a springy reinforcement on the cable so I can stuff that son of a gun into pockets where there's really no space for the cable at all and have everything be fine.
definitely feeling buyer's remorse on the lack of headphone jack, but they didn't have anything in the store that had one
I did upgrade my plan so I could tether though, so I suppose I could just keep using the old phone tethered to the new one... 🤔
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I did upgrade my plan so I could tether though, so I suppose I could just keep using the old phone tethered to the new one... 🤔
@aeva can't you like, switch the sim card?
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I did upgrade my plan so I could tether though, so I suppose I could just keep using the old phone tethered to the new one... 🤔
and I could set the SSID to say something like "free palestine and venezuela" 🤔
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@aeva can't you like, switch the sim card?
@bootie_fringe they're both a pain to remove, and I also don't want to alternate between which one is the telephone at a time
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alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
@aeva see if someone made a headphone jack case for the phone, else you could 3D print one and embed your wired dongle into it
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I did upgrade my plan so I could tether though, so I suppose I could just keep using the old phone tethered to the new one... 🤔
@aeva There’s also the Bluetooth adapter route. The thumbnails on Amazon show them with male 3.5 connectors (for aux in), but it’s typically removable for use with headphones.
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@aeva There’s also the Bluetooth adapter route. The thumbnails on Amazon show them with male 3.5 connectors (for aux in), but it’s typically removable for use with headphones.
@jkaniarz the worst of both worlds
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alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
@aeva
When I got my - was it pixel 3 maybe - that included a 3.5mm dongle that was just a short (5cm) USB cable with a 3.5mm jack. No actual "dongle", just a small extension cord that could live on the headphones. That sort of thing is not available? -
@aeva
When I got my - was it pixel 3 maybe - that included a 3.5mm dongle that was just a short (5cm) USB cable with a 3.5mm jack. No actual "dongle", just a small extension cord that could live on the headphones. That sort of thing is not available?@jannem that's a dongle
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@jannem that's a dongle
@jannem this is one of the two adapters I am complaining about https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Headphones-Auxiliary-DLC4311V-27/dp/B084Q1XFJX
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I like how this e-ink mp3 player *almost* nails the look of a plain white cardboard box with a halfassed pen drawing of a smart phone ui drawn on it https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Protect-Charging-Portable-Outdoor/dp/B0FDG4T3GH
i wonder how hackable it is 🤔
@aeva I actually Kickstarted some music player device (which should actually ship soon) that I can plug into the car or our stereo; if I can get a big SD card I can keep our whole collection on it. Looks a bit like a gamer-designed fat iPod, but that’s fine.
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alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
@aeva https://epenguin.imalone.co.uk/2025/06/audio-dongles-and-ghost-of-usb-1.html
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