so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
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@aeva time to decentralised p2p server infra
@pupxel honestly if you know of p2p things that have both a good mobile and a good desktop client and implements private message board / chat room / and/or video chat, I'm all ears
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@pupxel honestly if you know of p2p things that have both a good mobile and a good desktop client and implements private message board / chat room / and/or video chat, I'm all ears
@aeva closest hope I have is https://matrix.org/
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2. Any provider that can accept non-cryptocurrency payment is attached to the US banking system and is probably going to be responsive to US subpoenas anyway.
3. *You* still have to be responsive to US subpoenas, regardless of where the server is hosted; if you delete your password or whatever they can jail you for contempt until you contact your provider's customer service.
There are definitely threat models where it makes sense to have an international host, but it's complicated.
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@ratsnakegames @aeva not the FBI, the CIA (or the NSA)
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@ratsnakegames @aeva not the FBI, the CIA (or the NSA)
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@ratsnakegames @glyph this is not the sword i am going to throw myself upon
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@ratsnakegames @glyph this is not the sword i am going to throw myself upon
@aeva good, we have pretty strict laws on edged weapons /j
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@glyph it wouldn't be for anything sensitive, i just don't want to live in a panopticon prison, and i'm not interested in volunteering to be the one to give my friends' IDs to fascists and databrokers
@aeva @glyph You might consider 1984 Hosting based in Iceland. The ADL tried some lawfare bullshit against their customer and the hosting company went to court and won. https://litigation.1984.hosting/
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so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva I don’t know much about this, but I know that @JulianOliver definitely does. https://mastodon.social/@JulianOliver/113489003640111152
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so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva your replies assume the wrong threat model, a state that actually wants to observe *you*, a target with a value so high that it is sensible to use their best 0-days and risk them being detected and published.
They only go for the big platforms because that is low-effort and the platforms are willing participants, so the most you need in contingency plans is a domain name you control (so you can move the server without too much disruption) and distributed backups (but that's good practice anyway).
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@aeva your replies assume the wrong threat model, a state that actually wants to observe *you*, a target with a value so high that it is sensible to use their best 0-days and risk them being detected and published.
They only go for the big platforms because that is low-effort and the platforms are willing participants, so the most you need in contingency plans is a domain name you control (so you can move the server without too much disruption) and distributed backups (but that's good practice anyway).
@GyrosGeier i want to just host a small private chat room for a group of my local adult friends to shoot the shit without having to worry about being compelled by blanket legislation to sell them to data brokers or turn over their drivers licenses or whatever wet dream the authoritarian and/or fascist politicians in the US and the EU cook up next week