I hate how LLMs have contaminated creative writing communities.
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@danderson yes!
i'm a big fan of coding agents (i know you aren't), for boring pragmatic reasons, but WOW do i ever want to never read another line of LLM-written prose again.
not fiction, not technical writing, just...nothing. when so many of my interactions with others are via text, i want _their_ words.
@commaok @danderson it's funny how a lot of people are fine with slop, just not in the media they enjoy most
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And on that note, kudos to SCP, which has a straightforward rule for their creative writing community: any use of generative AI that results in words you didn't write appearing on the site gets you a permanent ban.
And yes, I take very special pleasure in reading new submissions and flagging those with LLM telltales, and seeing the "permanent ban implemented" update in the moderation log a few days later.
@danderson @aburka I’m delighted they’ve taken such a strong stance. (It’s such a terrific and impressive project in general. I just finished the novel version of There is No Antimemetics Division, and it’s great.)
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@aburka I'm kinda surprised that there hasn't yet been an SCP that's just a direct potshot at LLMs. There probably is and I missed it :)
@danderson @aburka Are we sure Sam Altman doesn’t need Containment?
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And on that note, kudos to SCP, which has a straightforward rule for their creative writing community: any use of generative AI that results in words you didn't write appearing on the site gets you a permanent ban.
And yes, I take very special pleasure in reading new submissions and flagging those with LLM telltales, and seeing the "permanent ban implemented" update in the moderation log a few days later.
Oh, and the way to appeal an AI ban is pretty straightforward: show evidence that you did work, for example a draft with versions that show the writing appearing progressively over time, the way it does when a human is writing. As a bonus, if you use the sandbox wiki to draft your things, you get that for free!
I don't think I've ever seen an AI ban appeal succeed, because guess what the slop article appears fully formed in v1, or appears in large multi-paragraph chunks over a few revisions with no rewriting or tinkering (other than removing the more obvious LLM telltales that even sloperators seem to know about, and even that's pretty rare).
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@danderson @aburka I’m delighted they’ve taken such a strong stance. (It’s such a terrific and impressive project in general. I just finished the novel version of There is No Antimemetics Division, and it’s great.)
@michaelgemar Yeah, the antimemetics stories are a really great little arc!
I can't think of another thematic hub that works as well for me, but plenty of standalone articles are a treat.
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@michaelgemar Yeah, the antimemetics stories are a really great little arc!
I can't think of another thematic hub that works as well for me, but plenty of standalone articles are a treat.
@danderson It’s unusual in that it accommodates so well bits that are just cool ideas without a lot of attached narrative. I love just dipping into random SCPs.
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Oh, and the way to appeal an AI ban is pretty straightforward: show evidence that you did work, for example a draft with versions that show the writing appearing progressively over time, the way it does when a human is writing. As a bonus, if you use the sandbox wiki to draft your things, you get that for free!
I don't think I've ever seen an AI ban appeal succeed, because guess what the slop article appears fully formed in v1, or appears in large multi-paragraph chunks over a few revisions with no rewriting or tinkering (other than removing the more obvious LLM telltales that even sloperators seem to know about, and even that's pretty rare).
@danderson I've been reviewing code samples from job applicants. Some of them seem to manually re-type things into the tool. Looks like non-LLM behaviour, but not a clear cut.
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@danderson @aburka I’m delighted they’ve taken such a strong stance. (It’s such a terrific and impressive project in general. I just finished the novel version of There is No Antimemetics Division, and it’s great.)
@michaelgemar @danderson yeah it's in my TBR heap (I was going to say pile but it's nowhere near that organized)
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@aburka I'm kinda surprised that there hasn't yet been an SCP that's just a direct potshot at LLMs. There probably is and I missed it :)
@danderson this one requires monitoring of LLM capabilities https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8196
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@danderson this one requires monitoring of LLM capabilities https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8196
@danderson and then there's... this https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/y-ai/offset/1
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@danderson @aburka Are we sure Sam Altman doesn’t need Containment?
@michaelgemar @danderson pretty sure that would be a net bonus to society, yeah
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And on that note, kudos to SCP, which has a straightforward rule for their creative writing community: any use of generative AI that results in words you didn't write appearing on the site gets you a permanent ban.
And yes, I take very special pleasure in reading new submissions and flagging those with LLM telltales, and seeing the "permanent ban implemented" update in the moderation log a few days later.
@danderson SCP knows all about containing humanity draining, energy devouring monstrosities
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@commaok @danderson it's funny how a lot of people are fine with slop, just not in the media they enjoy most
@aburka @commaok @danderson More than hallucinations or producing disinformation, the biggest danger from AI is it causes people to say "This is brilliant!" about mediocre slop they don't have the expertise to identify.
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@aburka @commaok @danderson More than hallucinations or producing disinformation, the biggest danger from AI is it causes people to say "This is brilliant!" about mediocre slop they don't have the expertise to identify.
@AlSweigart @aburka @commaok @danderson If only people read and believed human experts with the same trust they put into LLMs - is it because if the answer comes from my computer it must be right?
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And on that note, kudos to SCP, which has a straightforward rule for their creative writing community: any use of generative AI that results in words you didn't write appearing on the site gets you a permanent ban.
And yes, I take very special pleasure in reading new submissions and flagging those with LLM telltales, and seeing the "permanent ban implemented" update in the moderation log a few days later.
@danderson I wasn’t aware of SCP, so thanks! What a rabbit hole!
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Perché dovreste aver paura a dirlo?
Per chiunque si senta schifato del fatto che “le #Santanché” restino impunite:
sappiate che con il SÌ quella impunità diventa strutturale.
E stranamente proprio la destra estrema combatte questo referendum con tanta aggressività.
Quel sogno di casta le appartiene per natura.
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@b0rk my least favorite man pages were back when all the GNU tools man pages were just stubs telling you to use info. User hostility taken to a level only GNU could manage.
