Middle class kids like me can get one throw every decade maybe.

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

Also I grew up Chinese in a society where that basically makes me white. In many ways. It would be very different somewhere else. I had no qualms asking people for money at any point in my life including when I was young and relatively inexperienced.

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

@petrikas yeah same

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

@sally could have been more fun

[huubje@ieji.de]

@skinnylatte this one hits home. People usually don't register staff

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

Many in Asian societies are part of the 'sandwich generation' where they have to provide for their children AND their parents / uncles / aunts.

[vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de]

@skinnylatte @sally I had thought at first it was about actual darts, as I know a lesbian dart player (she used to work in same office as me), its a sport taken quite seriously here in Britain due to our pub culture and decent darts (especially the flight bits) are surprisingly expensive and have to be specially ordered..

[onekind@beige.party]

@skinnylatte Oh, super intrigued to hear you say that confidence in asking for money is a white people thing. Made me reflect on my upbringing which was 'aspiring middle class' i.e. educated but very poor. We didn't talk about money at all, and when I started to specialise in program design and funding applications I had to work through A LOT of yucky feelings about asking for money. I was 'working the fairground' to use your striking metaphor.

[johnbrowntypeface@spore.social]

@skinnylatte
bánh mì familia

[emc2@indieweb.social]

@skinnylatte

That take is spot on. Also, I hope your dart lands.

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

@onekind oh not a specifically white person thing, more of a 'it's not out of the ordinary for someone like me to ask for money if i want to no matter what i feel about it'

[cam@hachyderm.io]

@skinnylatte this does seem to be happening to every country that felt the baby boom after ww2

[onekind@beige.party]

@skinnylatte Ohh got it! So a level of familiarity with capital flows and mechanisms?

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

@onekind that and people not questioning your competence because you are not a racial minority

[onekind@beige.party]

@skinnylatte Yep, got it. Without disagreeing with your overall take, I note that as recently as my mother's early career, her Irish Catholicism was seen as a marker of being not quite white. 'Micks' couldn't get jobs at the tax office, for example, because of the stereotype they are not good with money. I actually suspect it was racism towards non-white skilled migrants that finally consolidated the Micks and the Prods into one single 'white' category in the eyes of the employment market.

[zbrown@floss.social]

@HumToTable @skinnylatte but also he might outright steal her darts, and be encouraged to do so

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

@onekind yeah, I’m certain there are varying levels of whiteness, and also poor white people’s experiences are different.

But it is also hard for someone not Chinese in Singapore or any kind of white most other places to get a certain sort of competence ascribed to them by default

[swelljoe@mas.to]

@skinnylatte yep, I'm from working class roots. I got lucky in the stock market during the first tech boom which funded my first throw. Then I got into Y Combinator, which helped with a second (though it was back when Y Combinator invested a laughably small amount of money). After nearly a decade working a regular tech job, maybe I can take another throw...but, now I'm old enough to need good health insurance and a retirement account, so the risk is higher.

[swelljoe@mas.to]

@skinnylatte but, also, it took me years to begin to understand how wealth moves. If you go to Stanford, you're already rubbing elbows with the money people at 22. If you go to community college, you're...not. You're just so much more likely to succeed on your first throw when your dart is accelerated by a huge sum of money from connected investors.