Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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@caffetino Depending on where. I don't see myself living in a Spanish or Italian city. They have a habit of stacking houses tightly on top of each other, very little greenery, and I need space. I want a garden. Think a farmhouse.
@Gina @caffetino but both Italy and Spain are big and there aren't just the cities. An English friend of mine bought property in Umbria in the country. A Spanish friend of mine bought a house for 40k€ (!!). In general, if you stay away from big cities and from too touristic places, there are good bargains to be made: I heard of big houses with big gardens available at 150k which is basically a steal (especially considering what I had to pay for an apartment...)
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The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
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@Gina I hope it is in Europe. There is much work to undo software centralization, and people like you are doing a very important job.
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At this point I'm pretty convinced I need to buy a campervan and just travel around 😅 I've only seen a fraction of the continent.
I can't think of any scenario that doesn't come with a cost. Every scenario means digging into my savings.
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@Gina I feel you. Im from the Netherlands as well. Currently in Fuertaventura for a while. We have been here before and loving it. We might even end-up moving here. Still Europe (houses still expensive), but lots of campervans because it's really compatible with the weather. It's consistently warm (winter and summer).
So, buy campervan, add cats, drive here and rent-out house to friends!
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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@Gina It’s really hard. Speaking from experience, moving to a different country is not easy or relatively obvious.
Being Dutch, I think you’re right, Southern Europe might be the easiest and fastest way.
The Campervan sounds like a great idea! I’d love to buy it and drive around.
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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"The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day"
The beaches aren't that bad, cook your own food and summers ar getting pretty hot:-) But the winter here is quite depressing!
Do you have the option of buying/renting a place in southern Europe? So you can spend the summers here in The Netherlands and move there in the winter?
Also so the cats don't have to move too much as they don't like that in my exper -
The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
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@Gina I mean, Groningen is also pretty nice - but it only solves your problems partially 😅
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@Gina I mean, Groningen is also pretty nice - but it only solves your problems partially 😅
@jbouter I've been to Groningen, we ehm have different definitions of nice 😅
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@jbouter I've been to Groningen, we ehm have different definitions of nice 😅
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@angelomassaro isn't Croatia really expensive nowadays?
@Gina Like many places in Europe, Croatia is dealing with high inflation, but with some budgeting, you can still live comfortably, especially if you earn an IT salary from a foreign company. You can also find a house (15-20km from the seaside) with a decent garden for under €300k, if that fits your budget
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At this point I'm pretty convinced I need to buy a campervan and just travel around 😅 I've only seen a fraction of the continent.
I can't think of any scenario that doesn't come with a cost. Every scenario means digging into my savings.
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@Gina Switzerland would be the expensive solution , but at least we generaly have at least 6 months where you can be outside at 20c+ . big towns tend to be more center lefts, public transports mostly works , but you need a local job to afford the living cost. and ownership aint simple either. I'm currently also ready to move anywhere for a job, but my homebase will , most likely, fallback to .ch in the end. Ping if you have specific questions , might have answers ;)
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@gryzor the weather, it's crowded, zero nature, super expensive, ugly architecture outside of the main tourist areas (look up "rijtjeshuis"), taxes are insane, shitty healthcare, low quality food, very restrictive policies leading to immediate fines for everything, and most of all, lack of sunshine.
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@richarddebruin @gryzor leugens 🥲