I'm once again begging people to stop blaming the victims of shitty techbro nonsense.

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

I'm once again begging people to stop blaming the victims of shitty techbro nonsense. Switching cost is never zero.

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

Spicy take:

Normal people shouldn't self host.

From an energy use perspective, the users per watt are WAY higher in a data center.

People are already awful at running patches and doing security updates.

OMG are people awful at doing backups.

From an ewaste POV, consumer electronics just don't have a very long lifespan, fail more frequently, are rarely upgradable, and easily broken. Enterprise grade servers in a data center are better.

Hosted services actually have a SOC to monitor what the fuck is going on and investigate unusual things. An individual normal user would never notice their self hosted server being popped for forever, and we already have far too many zombies.

Sure, megacorps aren't trustworthy stewards of key internet services like email either. But telling everyone they need yet another home appliance, but one you're going to have to fuck with several hours per month to keep running.

Dynamic DNS suck balls, IPv4 is running out, hosting shit being a NAT and reverse proxies and shch is its own thing, and lots and lots of people don't have very good home internet links.

Up front cost - yes, I know people "pay" for their social media and email with their privacy and advertising. But that means that saying they need to spend several hundred on a whole new computer and find a place to put it or rent a VPS or ...

Fact of the matter is, some sort of SaaS setup for web services IS the right solution for 97% of users. Scolding people for being abused by unregulated tech companies isn't solving anything. The right solution is to make people become more aware of the intentional and malicious enshittified bullshit techbros are cramming down their throat, and lobby the government to strengthen regulations.

[stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@JessTheUnstill @oblomov I understand the point and agree. But self hosting doesn't necessarily mean "do it yourself", you can pay professional people to prepare and maintain your services. But those are your services, with your own data.

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@JessTheUnstill these are very good point.
In an ideal world, where self-hosting would be cheap, portable, easily replicable across devices, and require no specialized knowledge, it might make sense to push for universal adoption, but we don't live in such a world so the compromises are essential.

Still, it's also important to remember that efficiency and resilience are opposite to each other, and it would do everyone good if we could develop tech that better approximates said ideal world.