The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
This is very sad annoying, & frustrating.
For years I have been one of many who depend on 2nd hand devices, repaired & repurposed - esp.. laptops . To help other people & my self have access to decent computers (often as their first device)
Some have served me well - a Thinkpad X1, a X 220 , old Dell's , they more that did their job.
Suddenly such options such access will be more expensive or not available -
Apart from the gross environmental costs.
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@pluralistic @iFixit and it’s not even that computer repair was enshittified here - it’s that the sphere of AI enshittification influence has enveloped PC repair and destroyed its margins in a matter of months.
You're making me think of this (long) video about AI accelerating existing problems.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
RAM theft is going to become an issue again for companies, isn't it?
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit tu as deja commence a remarquer ca @inforea ?
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@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit can we please pop this annoying bubble 📍 🎈 sooner than later
@ferrix @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit yes please
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@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit Is this hike in RAM gonna be permanent then?
@JustinMac84 Even ram manufacturers know it's not real demand. That's why most if them have said no to building more fabs.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit yes, it is frustrating (I got very lucky last year, and that will probably tide us over the worst personally, but systemically it is just infuriating) at this point all I can do is hope the chinese have in fact reverse engineered the EUV lithograph and get going.. but there is a lot of damage that was done this year T_T
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit Seen this video yesterday ... very bad times indeed ..
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit soldered RAM has upsides like better bandwidth, especially in the DDR5 era. I'm so glad I bought a maxed out T14s gen 6 AMD right before the shortages started. I was intentionally avoiding slotted RAM in my upgrade because I'd rather have faster memory and I would've maxed it out as soon as possible anyway. SODIMMs need to go in the mobile space, they just can't get the necessary signal integrity and take up extra space, and there are alternatives out there on the horizon that solve these issues. On destkop side, DDR5 has been a nightmare to deal with and it took years for CPU vendors to write proper code to train and handle RAM that doesn't cause multi minute training times at random and even a shot at faster speeds.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
The famous "natural efficiency of capitalism"
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RAM theft is going to become an issue again for companies, isn't it?
@skjeggtroll @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit Ooh, I'd forgotten those times where someone would break into an office and ransack the computers for CPUs and memory.
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What's the issue, you can just use 'AWS cloud computer'for a low low price of only $99/mo. Computers are an outdated concept, you lot just don't want progress.
/s
@properlypurple I've been pondering what the possible ramifications (no pun intended, but enjoyed) of these big price hikes might be on commodity cloud pricing if the LLM bubble doesn't pop soonish. I'm sure the big providers have solid supply contracts, but those need to be renegotiated sooner or later...
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit Can you survive until the bubble bursts? I expect a flood when that happens.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit there's no fucking way it makes any damn sense to yank yesteryear's SO-DIMM memory from these things for use in today's supercomputing clusters. Virtual insanity.
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@properlypurple I've been pondering what the possible ramifications (no pun intended, but enjoyed) of these big price hikes might be on commodity cloud pricing if the LLM bubble doesn't pop soonish. I'm sure the big providers have solid supply contracts, but those need to be renegotiated sooner or later...
@womble I'm pretty sure that small players are probably already in a place where they'll be priced out of the market soon. For larger players, it might take some time, due to the sheer size of these companies.
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@sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit there's no fucking way it makes any damn sense to yank yesteryear's SO-DIMM memory from these things for use in today's supercomputing clusters. Virtual insanity.
@aspensmonster Demand for server-grade ram is causing manufactuters to *divert resources* from production of laptop ram. Theyre not putting used ram in supercomputers. People are buying used because new is in short supply because of the diversion.
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The enshittification of computer repair is happening.
AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.
The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:
The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.
The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.
So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.
In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.
@pluralistic @sawaba @iFixit Next step if it comes to that will be discontinuation of consumer devices other than mobile devices and game consoles, and moving general compute to the cloud like Bezos IMO recently threatened with his 'give up your PC and rent from the cloud' bullshit. -
@JustinMac84 Even ram manufacturers know it's not real demand. That's why most if them have said no to building more fabs.
@Kyebr @JustinMac84 @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit It also helps that the artificial scarcity is inflating their margin nonetheless.
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@sawaba @JustinMac84 @pluralistic @iFixit That's what I'm hoping for as well. I've seen people upset that they can't afford 64GB of DDR5 right now, but: 1) I can't imagine how average people are using 64GB of RAM; and 2) if you just wait 6-12 months I'm sure the price is going to tank because we've seen this cycle multiple times already.
@bryce @JustinMac84 @pluralistic @sawaba @iFixit Mh .. this cycle is different.. because the entire production run of 2026 is already sold out..
So ... we're definitely talking years, regardless of when the AI bubble pops. 🙁
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