I did the `human.json` thing!
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@Edent Oooh! Looking forward to reading this more carefully! โฆ Since itโs json, would it be feasible to add a property for including a public key? Perhaps this can further be reinforced through a cryptographic web of trust? ๐ค
@rinkside you can suggest it - but cryptographic webs are a usability nightmare. Every single one has failed.
Maybe the next one won't. But I don't have high hopes.
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@rinkside you can suggest it - but cryptographic webs are a usability nightmare. Every single one has failed.
Maybe the next one won't. But I don't have high hopes.
@Edent Will have to read more about that issue โ definitely not an area of expertise. Thank you!
These days Iโm digging through old โฆ ideas? โฆ that may have been pushed aside in the rush to corporatize and centralize as we try building an alternate, more human network. ๐
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@Edent Will have to read more about that issue โ definitely not an area of expertise. Thank you!
These days Iโm digging through old โฆ ideas? โฆ that may have been pushed aside in the rush to corporatize and centralize as we try building an alternate, more human network. ๐
@rinkside yeah, things like Keybase tried something similar - but they got acquihired by Zoom during the pandemic.
I think, pragmatically, If I've stuck something on the website I control, that should be "good enough".
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@Edent its showing up now. I'll get you added to mine later once I'm not at work.
@Edent you should be vouched for now from https://parsecsreach.org
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@Edent you should be vouched for now from https://parsecsreach.org
@emily_s likewise from my end ๐
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I did the `human.json` thing!
If you're a blogger who I've met in person, and you're not using AI or LLMs for your content, let me know and I'll add you to my list.
@Edent you were on my human.json before you created your own, innit!
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@Edent The design is human.
Meme aside, yeah, I find it weird the use of JSON (which many people say is more machine-friendly than human-friendly) for that. Reminds me of https://humanstxt.org/, that uses .txt which seems more human-friendly.
Also, the "web" thing reminds me a bit of Keybase/Keyoxide. I hope it's not a case of missing research of existent work. Reminds me of this https://fliptomato.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/medical-researcher-discovers-integration-gets-75-citations/. I wonder if this could be proposed as an extension of one the earlier projectsโฆ
@qgustavor @Edent I had a go at contacting the humans.txt folks last year I think (maybe a bit before that), suggesting it was an idea whose time had come, but it was all very quiet there. Interested to see the human.json idea develop.
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@Edent Ah, I see FOAF has returned once again.
@Meyerweb @Edent ha, yes, I referenced FOAF only 18 months ago... https://andypiper.co.uk/2024/08/29/the-web-made-by-humans/
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@Edent Thanks for posting a reminder. https://slott56.github.io/2026-03-20_human_json.html
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@rinkside yeah, things like Keybase tried something similar - but they got acquihired by Zoom during the pandemic.
I think, pragmatically, If I've stuck something on the website I control, that should be "good enough".
@Edent Yes, the pgp key would reside on a self-controlled server. Isnโt there a feature with keys to build a web of trust through in-person key signing parties?
Host a human.json with a property pointing to a key that when inspected is bolstered by a human-verified web of trust. Thatโs where my thinking is. ๐
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@Meyerweb @Edent ha, yes, I referenced FOAF only 18 months ago... https://andypiper.co.uk/2024/08/29/the-web-made-by-humans/
@andypiper @Edent Have you looked through XFN at all? The goal there was admittedly to represent relationships in page source rather than metadata, but I imagine many of the general concepts could be of interest.
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@andypiper @Edent itโs not on every blog post, itโs only on the top-most index page. Should it be present on every page?
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@andypiper @Edent itโs not on every blog post, itโs only on the top-most index page. Should it be present on every page?
@slott56 oh, you're right, I see it on the top-level page, but the browser extension is not picking it up. Hmm! how odd.