turns out switching from gnome to KDE on fedora is *really easy* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/switching-desktop-environments/
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@lritter @datenwolf I'm not using it directly, but writing stuff for it indirectly is awful
@aeva @datenwolf fun fun. i'll be in that spot soon, too.
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@datenwolf @aeva "stop breathing, air quality is not good"
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@lritter @datenwolf because wow what a choice, use the ~protocol~ directly and get a ton of busy work dumped on you *or* introduce a bunch of dependencies that all make assumptions on your behalf about what a normal application does and you have to live with every mistake the layers below made for you
@aeva @datenwolf SDL has so far always been pretty good about giving me options. glfw not so great. not great at all, in fact. raylib probably even worse. but perhaps you need something even SDL can not provide.
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@aeva @datenwolf SDL has so far always been pretty good about giving me options. glfw not so great. not great at all, in fact. raylib probably even worse. but perhaps you need something even SDL can not provide.
@lritter @datenwolf I'm using SDL3 indirectly via pygame (which is SDL2, but I'm 90% sure it's using the 2-on-3 compatibility layer) (and also I have plans to yeet pygame and use SDL3 directly in the near future, but I don't expect it to solve the immediate problem of kwin and gnome both having hardcoded gesture detection that sends a touch cancel events to applications that would have received 3 and 4 finger simultaneous touch events)
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@lritter @datenwolf I'm using SDL3 indirectly via pygame (which is SDL2, but I'm 90% sure it's using the 2-on-3 compatibility layer) (and also I have plans to yeet pygame and use SDL3 directly in the near future, but I don't expect it to solve the immediate problem of kwin and gnome both having hardcoded gesture detection that sends a touch cancel events to applications that would have received 3 and 4 finger simultaneous touch events)
@aeva @datenwolf rofl
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@datenwolf @lritter I am using KDE right now and their dogshit touch hard coded 3 and 4 finger gesture detection system is preventing my program from working correctly.
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@lritter @datenwolf I think I'm probably just not going to ship this on linux. or at all. idk
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@datenwolf @lritter I am using KDE right now and their dogshit touch hard coded 3 and 4 finger gesture detection system is preventing my program from working correctly.
How important is windowed mode for you? Would exclusive fullscreen be an option? If so, you could use Vulkan-Direct-to-Display.
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@lritter @datenwolf I think I'm probably just not going to ship this on linux. or at all. idk
@aeva i assume you have already found https://forum.manjaro.org/t/disable-3-finger-gestures/148086/18
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https://discourse.gnome.org/t/how-to-disable-edit-touchpad-gestures-in-gnome-40/6081/2which don't sound too helpful
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@datenwolf @lritter will that make the kde and/or gnome stop intercepting touch events?
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@aeva i assume you have already found https://forum.manjaro.org/t/disable-3-finger-gestures/148086/18
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https://discourse.gnome.org/t/how-to-disable-edit-touchpad-gestures-in-gnome-40/6081/2which don't sound too helpful
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@aeva 2022, somebody noted: "However, the up/down swipe gestures can be disabled by going into KDE Settings > Workspace Behavior > Desktop Effects and disabling Desktop Grid and Present Windows. The left/right gestures cannot be removed without disabling all virtual desktops." (https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php%3Ff=111&t=176711.html#p459511)
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@datenwolf @lritter I need you to understand: I. HATE. WAYLAND. WITH. ALL. MY. HEART. AND. I. HATE. EVERYTIHNG. THAT. LED. TO. ME. USING. IT.
@aeva @datenwolf @lritter
Don't mince words. Tell us how you really feel!
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someone should teach linux developers Game Design. linux would be a lot more fun if you could get enhancements and power-ups each run that persist into future runs
@aeva can't wait for Linux 2 to come out. I hope they also add tense music to sudo
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@aeva @datenwolf @lritter
Don't mince words. Tell us how you really feel!
:-)@brouhaha @datenwolf @lritter like i didn't get nearly enough sleep last night
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@brouhaha @datenwolf @lritter like i didn't get nearly enough sleep last night
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@datenwolf @aeva "stop breathing, air quality is not good"
Sorry, I didn't mean to direct this urge at the tagged people in particular.
I'd rather have *everyone* in the FOSS world see Wayland for what it is, and cease to pour their efforts in the sunk cost fallacy.
Had all the time, energy and life that people poured into Wayland for over 15 years spent instead of fixing the issues of Xorg and addressing the shortcomings of the X11 protocol, it would have been a lot more productive.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to direct this urge at the tagged people in particular.
I'd rather have *everyone* in the FOSS world see Wayland for what it is, and cease to pour their efforts in the sunk cost fallacy.
Had all the time, energy and life that people poured into Wayland for over 15 years spent instead of fixing the issues of Xorg and addressing the shortcomings of the X11 protocol, it would have been a lot more productive.
@datenwolf @lritter I agree completely
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@slothrop @eniko yeah, I think the term I'm looking for is "deplatforming". With coordination, you can cut down pretty hard on someone's practical reach, but actually deplatforming someone on the Fediverse requires chasing them from server to server until they either give up or get sufficient control of their platform that they can't be dislodged.
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@levelbot oh no
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you're reading that right - buffoonery levels are at 100%
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€streaming punto computer #servicetoot
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@simona yahweh,quello è a tutti gli effetti,anche se non è un dio, e se ipoteticamente lo fosse,lo sarebbe soltanto di israele dato che le bibbie "cattoliche"sono una usurpazione della torà, nella bibbia, è definito " uomo di guerra" non sono in grado di dire se un dio esiste,se c'è non può essere l'elohim yahweh della bibbia.
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Michael Karbacher (@sozialwelten) is coming to #FediForum and says:
We are in a very early process of developing a fediverse app called “testapp” for open bookcases to create a new form of (book-) library based on commons and self organization. App development, subsidies, sociology.
You can still join us, starting in a few hours! https://fediforum.org
