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@fasterandworse for some reason i want to tag @aeva
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@fasterandworse for some reason i want to tag @aeva
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse honestly, as both an artist and a professional programmer, I don't feel particularly threatened by "ai". In my (i think measured, researched, carefully thought out) opinion we are already in the time of maximum danger as people-who-make-things, because the people-with-money-and-outsized-power-over-industry don't understand what "ai" can and can't do and are making bad decisions that can hurt us in the near term.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse honestly, as both an artist and a professional programmer, I don't feel particularly threatened by "ai". In my (i think measured, researched, carefully thought out) opinion we are already in the time of maximum danger as people-who-make-things, because the people-with-money-and-outsized-power-over-industry don't understand what "ai" can and can't do and are making bad decisions that can hurt us in the near term.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse in the long term, "ai" can't and will not be able to do my job, and no amount of hype or magical thinking on the part of the leisure class will ever change that, because we don't live in a consensus reality and magical thinking can't magick away the limitations of the technology. Meanwhile, there's been a steady stream of research showing that there's a rather large gap between the actual reality of the situation and what the "ai" peddlers are saying.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse in the long term, "ai" can't and will not be able to do my job, and no amount of hype or magical thinking on the part of the leisure class will ever change that, because we don't live in a consensus reality and magical thinking can't magick away the limitations of the technology. Meanwhile, there's been a steady stream of research showing that there's a rather large gap between the actual reality of the situation and what the "ai" peddlers are saying.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse and when I say it can't do my job, I know this to be true because I evaluated it myself. I have a neck injury, and I have side projects, and I was cautiously hopeful that if these tools worked the way they're marketed to, then I could maybe use them to make working on my side projects safer by reducing the time I spend on them. What I found instead is that these tools are complete garbage.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse and when I say it can't do my job, I know this to be true because I evaluated it myself. I have a neck injury, and I have side projects, and I was cautiously hopeful that if these tools worked the way they're marketed to, then I could maybe use them to make working on my side projects safer by reducing the time I spend on them. What I found instead is that these tools are complete garbage.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse my conclusion was that experiment was that it would be faster for me to simply prioritize my recovery and work slower on my projects here and there without the use of "ai" tools at all than it would have been to use them.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse my conclusion was that experiment was that it would be faster for me to simply prioritize my recovery and work slower on my projects here and there without the use of "ai" tools at all than it would have been to use them.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse in contrast, I ran a similar experiment the last two months where I hired a friend to help me with one of my side projects, and it was worth every penny. Working with a skilled human collaborator for two months shot the project ahead way faster it would have gone alone, and it helped him raise funds to keep his small business going for a little longer, which means my friends are happier and healthier.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse in contrast, I ran a similar experiment the last two months where I hired a friend to help me with one of my side projects, and it was worth every penny. Working with a skilled human collaborator for two months shot the project ahead way faster it would have gone alone, and it helped him raise funds to keep his small business going for a little longer, which means my friends are happier and healthier.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse what is really great about human collaborators is you can explain things to them, which they can understand, when they don't understand they ask you for clarifications, and the experience is cumulative over time, so they get better at the thing the more you work together.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse what is really great about human collaborators is you can explain things to them, which they can understand, when they don't understand they ask you for clarifications, and the experience is cumulative over time, so they get better at the thing the more you work together.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse so, speaking purely from the perspective of let's rub together two moneys and see if we can make a third money, you could 1) use a tool that tries to makes your code more similar to code in its dragnet training corpus based on prompts, learns nothing, makes a mess of everything, and mostly creates messes for the bored human technician to clean up, or
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse so, speaking purely from the perspective of let's rub together two moneys and see if we can make a third money, you could 1) use a tool that tries to makes your code more similar to code in its dragnet training corpus based on prompts, learns nothing, makes a mess of everything, and mostly creates messes for the bored human technician to clean up, or
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse 2) put together a small group of human collaborators, lay down the foundation for the thing you want to build, get a basic product out the door, and gradually build up your team by hiring more people and training them, and so on. Personally, I'm trying as hard as I can to think about this with only greedy intentions, and option 1 still does not look attractive.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse 2) put together a small group of human collaborators, lay down the foundation for the thing you want to build, get a basic product out the door, and gradually build up your team by hiring more people and training them, and so on. Personally, I'm trying as hard as I can to think about this with only greedy intentions, and option 1 still does not look attractive.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse so, again, trying to just apply cruel libertarian thinking here and not prosocial values or anything, I just don't see how long term "ai" businesses wont get out competed by teams of people who are willing to do the work and willing to learn
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse so, again, trying to just apply cruel libertarian thinking here and not prosocial values or anything, I just don't see how long term "ai" businesses wont get out competed by teams of people who are willing to do the work and willing to learn
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse now, let's talk about art. I work directly with professional artists, and most of my friends are professional artists, and I went to art school, but I am not a professional artist, I'm more of a "prosumer" artist. I cannot emphasize enough how unappealing "ai" image generators are to me, because not only do they remove the fun part of art, they also make the end result look like dog shit 99% of the time.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse now, let's talk about art. I work directly with professional artists, and most of my friends are professional artists, and I went to art school, but I am not a professional artist, I'm more of a "prosumer" artist. I cannot emphasize enough how unappealing "ai" image generators are to me, because not only do they remove the fun part of art, they also make the end result look like dog shit 99% of the time.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse I've noticed "ai" generated images being used a lot in advertising these days, and I think most of what they're getting out of it right now is that it is something ordinary people can recognize as being "high tech" and that can give it a cool factor, but only up until the point where it peaks and the shit starts sliding down the hill. The "ai" image generation artifacts will inevitably look dated to ordinary people.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse I've noticed "ai" generated images being used a lot in advertising these days, and I think most of what they're getting out of it right now is that it is something ordinary people can recognize as being "high tech" and that can give it a cool factor, but only up until the point where it peaks and the shit starts sliding down the hill. The "ai" image generation artifacts will inevitably look dated to ordinary people.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse the real reason why making art is never going to be obsolete is because it's a deep human impulse to try to make things that feel alive, to play with our senses, and to try to communicate the things we can't with words. For the most part children have to be trained to stop making art, we have a whole industry set up for that.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse the real reason why making art is never going to be obsolete is because it's a deep human impulse to try to make things that feel alive, to play with our senses, and to try to communicate the things we can't with words. For the most part children have to be trained to stop making art, we have a whole industry set up for that.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse artists despite having been shat on for literally thousands of years nevertheless continue to bring beautiful art into our world. No technology magnate is going to succeed at stopping artists from making their arts where so many teachers and parents who would have preferred a lawyer or perhaps a doctor instead had failed.
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse artists despite having been shat on for literally thousands of years nevertheless continue to bring beautiful art into our world. No technology magnate is going to succeed at stopping artists from making their arts where so many teachers and parents who would have preferred a lawyer or perhaps a doctor instead had failed.
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse I'm literally in pain all the time and I'm in worse pain when I paint, or draw, or write, or type, and not even that can stop me from wanting to make things
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@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse I'm literally in pain all the time and I'm in worse pain when I paint, or draw, or write, or type, and not even that can stop me from wanting to make things
@hipsterelectron @fasterandworse anyways sorry for the text wall, I meant to just share a few encouraging words and got swept up in a fit of passion 😅
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Wow. So, for me, I think a skeleton! Thanks all.
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@evan skeleton got robbed
