Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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All of that was somewhat tolerable, because at least most of us lived a decent middle class life here. But that's starting to disappear as well. I don't know what's happened the past few years, but life here has gotten ridiculously expensive. Groceries, taxes, rent, incidental expenses, everything increased. To a point where it regularly starts to eat into my savings. It doesn't make financial sense to stay in The Netherlands. It's just not worth it anymore.
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@Gina moving away has been in my backlog for a looong time. problem is always where to move to that isn't worse. like getting a job, probably the people are the biggest question, and hardest question for me to answer. very curious to follow your thoughts and decision.
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@Gina You're not a fan of Indonesian food?
@fullyabstract I love indonesian food, but the fruits and veggies barely have flavor here.
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@herrstancil oh wow 😂
*grabs the holy water
@Gina woah never had someone scream "block me" quite so loudly. done! wtf. how often do you see that?
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@Gina woah never had someone scream "block me" quite so loudly. done! wtf. how often do you see that?
@travisfw that was a uhm.. fascinating read 😅
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All of that was somewhat tolerable, because at least most of us lived a decent middle class life here. But that's starting to disappear as well. I don't know what's happened the past few years, but life here has gotten ridiculously expensive. Groceries, taxes, rent, incidental expenses, everything increased. To a point where it regularly starts to eat into my savings. It doesn't make financial sense to stay in The Netherlands. It's just not worth it anymore.
4/n
That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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@Gina come to Uruguay 🇺🇾
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@mario Paris would already be an upgrade from Amsterdam. I could live around Fontainebleau, less than an hour south of Paris.
How do you like it so far?
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That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
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@Gina That's really interesting because, despite the rise of Wilders and his ilk, the perception in the UK (or at least, in GenX) is of NL as a bastion of liberalism.
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@Gina That's really interesting because, despite the rise of Wilders and his ilk, the perception in the UK (or at least, in GenX) is of NL as a bastion of liberalism.
@underseamonkey @Gina It may have been, like 20 years ago. Downhill from there.
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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> The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable
*waves from the UK*
It sounds like you'd be right at home here :)
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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@Gina visit Friesland and Drenthe in summer ☺️. Forests, wetlands, what's not to like! That's more than 3 parks.
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> The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable
*waves from the UK*
It sounds like you'd be right at home here :)
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That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
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Clearly it's time to go (even though I'd be willing to stay a bit longer for a ~particular role~, in case my boss is reading this 😂), but the question is..
..go where?
Australia was a contender, but I haven't heard back from my visa application. Finding a visa sponsored job also hasn't led anywhere. Plus, it feels like Australians are dealing with their own financial challenges, especially aspiring home owners.
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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Portugal and especially Lisbon might be something for your longlist. The country has emerged well from a huge hit by the financial crisis (2007/ 2008). Lisbon seems to have an entrepreneurial drive. That includes tech companies.
On the country @Dodo_sipping might be able to contribute some insights. She moved from Germany to the North of Portugal. She can tell herself.
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Clearly it's time to go (even though I'd be willing to stay a bit longer for a ~particular role~, in case my boss is reading this 😂), but the question is..
..go where?
Australia was a contender, but I haven't heard back from my visa application. Finding a visa sponsored job also hasn't led anywhere. Plus, it feels like Australians are dealing with their own financial challenges, especially aspiring home owners.
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@Gina I read your posts about moving with a lot of interest!
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> The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable
*waves from the UK*
It sounds like you'd be right at home here :)
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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@Gina I suppose people already told you but you can check the Canary Islands and Madeira. They’re not hot, they’re temperate the whole year.
Greece is also a wonderful place with really nice people.
And I don’t know directly the south of Portugal, the Algarve, but people say it’s great and cheaper than Andalusia in southern Spain.
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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@Gina I grew up in Seattle. Pretty much the same. Except for the food - some of the best anywhere.
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Clearly it's time to go (even though I'd be willing to stay a bit longer for a ~particular role~, in case my boss is reading this 😂), but the question is..
..go where?
Australia was a contender, but I haven't heard back from my visa application. Finding a visa sponsored job also hasn't led anywhere. Plus, it feels like Australians are dealing with their own financial challenges, especially aspiring home owners.
6/n
@Gina Spain. Good weather, fiber at home in 2 days, cheaper living conditions, healthcare is cheap or included and the people are also lovely.
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Clearly it's time to go (even though I'd be willing to stay a bit longer for a ~particular role~, in case my boss is reading this 😂), but the question is..
..go where?
Australia was a contender, but I haven't heard back from my visa application. Finding a visa sponsored job also hasn't led anywhere. Plus, it feels like Australians are dealing with their own financial challenges, especially aspiring home owners.
6/n
The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
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@rysiek COBOL (Common _Business_ Oriented Language) tried to do away with programmers too. "Let the business decide what they want the computer to do!" My ass.
Fast-forward 60 years: companies pay a 50% premium for entry level devs who can spell "mainframe" because _absolutely no-one_ can be arsed to code in COBOL.
I bet there are dozens of languages more like this if you count niche corporate ones that tried and failed miserably to get rid of devs.
No nerds, no computing. Period.
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@pscindy new todo list: find old todo list
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@stefano wondered today if yourself and country folk were proud of your national rugby team's performance this Six Nations? Many of us hold them in high admiration. You posted picture is perfect to describe their journey.
Hope you had a marvellous day with your loved ones.
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@KatS @craignicol you're absolutely right! Here are some possible answers to these questions: …
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@toerror seems like it would be just cheaper to ignore ai, keep your tools sharp, and leave all the losers who fell for it behind in the dust
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@craignicol @rysiek
What problem are we solving?Are you sure that's actually the problem?Is this the best framing for it that we can think of?
That's one of the hard parts, for sure.All these are far harder than the actual encoding, IME.
