absofuckinlutely DETEST autotranslation & localization.
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
btw: when Bush & Cheney were getting ready to invade #Iraq, i started translating news from EU & Latin America that were not being reprinted or followed up by USA media.
BBC, El Pais, they would block americans from their sites. L’Express never did; neither news sites from Canada, México, Brasil. so i was a one-woman RSS feed, circumventing geoblocks, quote posting (yes, they existed before twitter) what caught my eye or blogging full translations.
USA media has never been trustworthy.
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FYI:
multilinguism ≠ plurilinguism
@MastodonEngineering should be really proud of themselves because we have here the closest thing to a plurilingual platform.
multilingual platforms allow you to write in the language of your choice, usually with the app completely translated into the language of your choosing.
on plurilingual platforms, you can write in whatever language you choose and regardless of localization.
that’s Mastodon today.
@blogdiva @MastodonEngineering Oh my god you're right! I routinely auto-translate posts into English and then confidently respond in English knowing they can auto-translate back to their own language. I know the translation will be choppy, but it's literally *good enough* for chatting on the internet.
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
@blogdiva I never understood why language anchors weren’t just a thing in Unicode from the start! It would have actually made Han unification make some sense.
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@blogdiva @MastodonEngineering Oh my god you're right! I routinely auto-translate posts into English and then confidently respond in English knowing they can auto-translate back to their own language. I know the translation will be choppy, but it's literally *good enough* for chatting on the internet.
@blogdiva @MastodonEngineering Thank you so much for the concept of the "pluralinguistic"! That's going to be very useful.
Because I've experienced what you're talking about: a system that detects when I'm writing English vs. writing (poorly in my case) in French. It drove me up the wall that either the English or the French were always both underlined in red *and* that the spellcheck didn't apply (ie, it would be great if it added accent marks for me).
We need pluralinguistic applications.
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
@blogdiva Libre Office does much better for plurilingual text
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
@blogdiva I've never been happier then the day I realised thunderbird would spell check multiple languages at once for emails. But apart from that lovely exception, silicon valley dominance in tech means all apps assume people only use one language. It's such a limited small minded way of thinking...
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
@blogdiva I sort of see that - some aspects of typesetting depend on the language, but this should have been a problem of the journal, no? I did not have to quote many non-English texts in papers, it usually worked. Turning off all auto correct stuff could have helped with that (if I had used Word...)
But I totally agree: our lives are so much richer when we use more languages. My best experience was four person around a table speaking four languages (because we had no single common language)
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it was absolute hell when i was writing academic papers, 30 years ago, quoting sources in 2-3 different languages.
in proper academic writing, if you translate the text, you include the original in a footnote or vice-versa.
Microsoft Office, with their insistence that autocorrect can only happen one language at a time, has kneecapped plurilingual literacy.
we could be using language anchors to deal with dictionary switching, but nooo because illiterate techbros rule the world.
@blogdiva see also google surveilling everything i do but comletely failing to realize, on my phone with german as the system language, that i'm usually looking for the english wikipedia page
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115849251057488746
absofuckinlutely DETEST autotranslation & localization. this is why i use VPNs: to search the web beyond gringolandia; to read the web in other languages & not gringlish.
if you want to know how pigheaded a business "culture" is, look at how they force localization ―and this includes search engines.
then there’s the damage done to plurilinguism by Microsoft Office.
i hate the illiterate techbro, one language at a time, model of reading & writing.
develop for plurilinguism or GTFO
@blogdiva My current solution for "auto-translate" is basically an automatic dictionary app that "translates" the word I'm currently hovering over. (And the dictionary is human-maintained and conveys nuance and subtle stuff better than a robot translator ever could) I have a rudimentary understanding of Japanese grammar, but my reading vocabulary is currently shit, so the dictionary is necessary (I haven't even reached the "self reinforcing" point of learning the writing system well enough to "read" unknown characters... It's a hell of a lot harder than purely phonetic-alphabet languages)
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Not a bad suggestion, for those in a position to take it - which is by no means everyone.
Presumably via \usepackage{babel} and whatever other tweaks one may add for fonts and such.
Here's the frightening manual which no one will want to see:
https://mirrors.mit.edu/CTAN/macros/latex/required/babel/base/babel.pdfBut it does indicate that a certain amount of thought has gone into it.
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FYI:
multilinguism ≠ plurilinguism
@MastodonEngineering should be really proud of themselves because we have here the closest thing to a plurilingual platform.
multilingual platforms allow you to write in the language of your choice, usually with the app completely translated into the language of your choosing.
on plurilingual platforms, you can write in whatever language you choose and regardless of localization.
that’s Mastodon today.
@blogdiva ah, thanks for explaining the distinction!
Over the past couple of years, I’ve seen more and more websites in German that are just auto-translated from English. And boy does it ever show…
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@blogdiva ah, thanks for explaining the distinction!
Over the past couple of years, I’ve seen more and more websites in German that are just auto-translated from English. And boy does it ever show…
@slothrop yeah i actually switched my browser's language from German to English last year to get rid of all the auto-translated "German". Unfortunately there are sites that apparently select the language by IP geolocation (was zum Fick, weil es in jeder Region nur eine Sprache gibt oder wie?), but it has reduced the amount of slop I get by default.
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FYI:
multilinguism ≠ plurilinguism
@MastodonEngineering should be really proud of themselves because we have here the closest thing to a plurilingual platform.
multilingual platforms allow you to write in the language of your choice, usually with the app completely translated into the language of your choosing.
on plurilingual platforms, you can write in whatever language you choose and regardless of localization.
that’s Mastodon today.
@blogdiva really good point! I'm writing an article on directions for Mastodon including a section on leveraging strengths, is it okay if I quote you on this and link to this thread? Something along the lines of
"As your anutifa liza points out, Mastodon today is the closest thing there to a plurilingual platform, where you can write in whatever language you want."
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@blogdiva really good point! I'm writing an article on directions for Mastodon including a section on leveraging strengths, is it okay if I quote you on this and link to this thread? Something along the lines of
"As your anutifa liza points out, Mastodon today is the closest thing there to a plurilingual platform, where you can write in whatever language you want."
@jdp23 sure. just correct "auntifa"
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@slothrop yeah i actually switched my browser's language from German to English last year to get rid of all the auto-translated "German". Unfortunately there are sites that apparently select the language by IP geolocation (was zum Fick, weil es in jeder Region nur eine Sprache gibt oder wie?), but it has reduced the amount of slop I get by default.
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@mariamannone did you see the time frame i gave? LaTex wasn’t used for that back then. jfc.
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@blogdiva I've never been happier then the day I realised thunderbird would spell check multiple languages at once for emails. But apart from that lovely exception, silicon valley dominance in tech means all apps assume people only use one language. It's such a limited small minded way of thinking...
in my experience, most ISPs do their best to suppress #thunderbird.
i continue to recommend it, though my users bristle.
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@blogdiva I've never been happier then the day I realised thunderbird would spell check multiple languages at once for emails. But apart from that lovely exception, silicon valley dominance in tech means all apps assume people only use one language. It's such a limited small minded way of thinking...
@AnaVinuela @blogdiva I was very happy to discover that iPhone QuickPath will allow me to swipe/type in more than one language at a time.
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@blogdiva Libre Office does much better for plurilingual text
@HighlandLawyer @blogdiva on the Fediverse, the plurilinguistic feature I would love is the possibility to write a post in multiple language not by mixing text (violating the language indication), but as multiple versions of the same post, all packed together in a single object.
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@HighlandLawyer @blogdiva on the Fediverse, the plurilinguistic feature I would love is the possibility to write a post in multiple language not by mixing text (violating the language indication), but as multiple versions of the same post, all packed together in a single object.
@oblomov @HighlandLawyer @blogdiva heh, I built that... Still a work in progress, but it's available at https://codeberg.org/whythawk/hop-sauna... I call this "dynamic internationalisation" because it's something you control directly.
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@Alberto @Otttoz
Ahahaha no uno dei Borghi che il mascellone impianto’ nella pianura pontina, tutti battezzati con i nomi di battaglie della Prima Guerra Mondiale
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@Pierrette @Otttoz
Bainsizza sa di Trieste o limitrofi, o sbaglio? 🤔
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@shoofle "alpha mask" is probably the term you are looking for. this would be for opaque cutouts eg leaves.
however, you will have to remember to use a premultiplied alpha blending equation and make sure your textures have the alpha channel already premultiplied or you'll get weird artifacts https://www.realtimerendering.com/blog/gpus-prefer-premultiplication/
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@bestiolina
Quando ero giovane, spiantato e novarese, il mare era Varazze o Arenzano, rigorosamente sugli scogli con la fügassa e l'acqua... 😊Il caffè a un autogrill della Voltri-Sempione.
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@lysander @vonblubba basta aver vicino un computer con cui caricarci sopra la musica :D
(e non allontanarsene per più del tempo dell'ascolto di un album)
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@Alberto bar cassato per sempre
