Bondi's extortionary demand for the Minnesota voter rolls is curious.
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Bondi's extortionary demand for the Minnesota voter rolls is curious. Minnesota's voter rolls, like those of most states, are essentially public, including name, address, phone number (if given), and elections voted in. The only information redacted (by law) is DoB, SSN (etc) and which party's primary elections they chose to vote in.
One can only speculate on why DoJ would want the redacted information.
@mattblaze Wired has aome insight: https://www.wired.com/story/dhs-data-grab-getting-citizens-kicked-off-voter-rolls/
They want Minn. to join it's "SAVE" system -
Bondi's extortionary demand for the Minnesota voter rolls is curious. Minnesota's voter rolls, like those of most states, are essentially public, including name, address, phone number (if given), and elections voted in. The only information redacted (by law) is DoB, SSN (etc) and which party's primary elections they chose to vote in.
One can only speculate on why DoJ would want the redacted information.
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Minnesota has open primaries - any voter can select which party primary they want to vote in at the time of the primary. There's no party registration, so the primary selected (and not made public) is the only indicator of party affinity in the voter database there.
My guess is they just want the ability to point at stuff that isn’t fraud and call it fraud over and over again until it sticks as a way of putting ICE or the National Guard at select polling locations during the next election.
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My guess is they just want the ability to point at stuff that isn’t fraud and call it fraud over and over again until it sticks as a way of putting ICE or the National Guard at select polling locations during the next election.
@bflipp @mattblaze Yep. This is the most plausible scenario.
They want to find anything that is UNUSUAL (though not necessarily illegal or improper) and hand it over to their media machine, to begin building a case for the lie that "Minnesota improperly managed their elections in 2024, so we'll need to put ICE everywhere / manage their elections for them" or similar.
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@bflipp @mattblaze Yep. This is the most plausible scenario.
They want to find anything that is UNUSUAL (though not necessarily illegal or improper) and hand it over to their media machine, to begin building a case for the lie that "Minnesota improperly managed their elections in 2024, so we'll need to put ICE everywhere / manage their elections for them" or similar.
@distractal @bflipp There is no federal authority to manage elections. HAVA and the NVRA each created some requirements for how states manage voter registration, but do not give any authority to the federal government to supervise elections (as the Voting Rights Act did).
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Minnesota has open primaries - any voter can select which party primary they want to vote in at the time of the primary. There's no party registration, so the primary selected (and not made public) is the only indicator of party affinity in the voter database there.
@mattblaze
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@distractal @bflipp There is no federal authority to manage elections. HAVA and the NVRA each created some requirements for how states manage voter registration, but do not give any authority to the federal government to supervise elections (as the Voting Rights Act did).
@mattblaze @bflipp I trust you are correct, but this administration has a tendency to do illegal things even where they have no authority until they are specifically told not to, and in a not insignificant number of cases, even ignore judicial rulings.
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@3x10to8mps I apologize if my post did not meet your needs. I am not nearly as smart, savvy, or attractive as you are.
@mattblaze Wow what a jerk you are
If you don't want comments don't post on social media
What I said did not deserve your hostility
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@mattblaze Wow what a jerk you are
If you don't want comments don't post on social media
What I said did not deserve your hostility
@3x10to8mps bye bye little troll
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Minnesota has open primaries - any voter can select which party primary they want to vote in at the time of the primary. There's no party registration, so the primary selected (and not made public) is the only indicator of party affinity in the voter database there.
@mattblaze Tim Walz should pull a DOGE and delete that information from the voter database, then say "oops".
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@distractal @bflipp There is no federal authority to manage elections. HAVA and the NVRA each created some requirements for how states manage voter registration, but do not give any authority to the federal government to supervise elections (as the Voting Rights Act did).
This has literally zero to do with “federal authority to manage elections” when you can just have your goon squad rolling around kidnapping people to scare people away from going to vote in the same way they are currently scared to leave their house right now.
Remember the evidence for current ICE enforcement was a youtube video made by a mentally challenged man going to daycares on the weekend when no kids were there to prove “fraud.”
Why would you even begin to think what is and isn’t managed between the states and federal government makes any difference now?
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This has literally zero to do with “federal authority to manage elections” when you can just have your goon squad rolling around kidnapping people to scare people away from going to vote in the same way they are currently scared to leave their house right now.
Remember the evidence for current ICE enforcement was a youtube video made by a mentally challenged man going to daycares on the weekend when no kids were there to prove “fraud.”
Why would you even begin to think what is and isn’t managed between the states and federal government makes any difference now?
@bflipp @distractal Because it DOES make a big difference. Elections are run by states, not the federal government. The executive branch has virtually no role in election operations. While it’s certainly true that the Trump administration has overstepped its authority in many ways, attempting to usurp state control over elections goes well beyond anything they’ve attempted or even discussed. It would represent a significant attack on the structure of federalism.
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@bflipp @distractal Because it DOES make a big difference. Elections are run by states, not the federal government. The executive branch has virtually no role in election operations. While it’s certainly true that the Trump administration has overstepped its authority in many ways, attempting to usurp state control over elections goes well beyond anything they’ve attempted or even discussed. It would represent a significant attack on the structure of federalism.
@bflipp @distractal Anyway, whatever. I think actually understanding stuff is useful.
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@bflipp @distractal Because it DOES make a big difference. Elections are run by states, not the federal government. The executive branch has virtually no role in election operations. While it’s certainly true that the Trump administration has overstepped its authority in many ways, attempting to usurp state control over elections goes well beyond anything they’ve attempted or even discussed. It would represent a significant attack on the structure of federalism.
But the regime can just have ICE doing exactly what they’re doing now during the elections and it will greatly suppress turn out in the areas they are operating.
I don’t need to be explained to how our elections work. I’m saying it won’t matter unless we have some unlikely loyalty pledges by state law enforcement and state military to ignore federalization and protect the citizens from federal forces who would be making voting a hazardous affair.
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@bflipp @distractal Anyway, whatever. I think actually understanding stuff is useful.
Yeah I’m not saying anything about usurping control of elections from a given state.
Maybe you need to get right with where we’re currently at right now.
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But the regime can just have ICE doing exactly what they’re doing now during the elections and it will greatly suppress turn out in the areas they are operating.
I don’t need to be explained to how our elections work. I’m saying it won’t matter unless we have some unlikely loyalty pledges by state law enforcement and state military to ignore federalization and protect the citizens from federal forces who would be making voting a hazardous affair.
@bflipp @distractal whatever. You clearly know more about this than I do.
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Bondi's extortionary demand for the Minnesota voter rolls is curious. Minnesota's voter rolls, like those of most states, are essentially public, including name, address, phone number (if given), and elections voted in. The only information redacted (by law) is DoB, SSN (etc) and which party's primary elections they chose to vote in.
One can only speculate on why DoJ would want the redacted information.
It's OBVIOUS the goal is rigged elections, elections that can only ever be won by the authoritatian's machine.
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It's OBVIOUS the goal is rigged elections, elections that can only ever be won by the authoritatian's machine.
@unruly Sorry if you find my comments obvious or unhelpful.
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@bflipp @distractal Because it DOES make a big difference. Elections are run by states, not the federal government. The executive branch has virtually no role in election operations. While it’s certainly true that the Trump administration has overstepped its authority in many ways, attempting to usurp state control over elections goes well beyond anything they’ve attempted or even discussed. It would represent a significant attack on the structure of federalism.
@mattblaze @bflipp @distractal
But since when did Trump think rules apply to him? He stated during the campaign he was going to rig elections so “you’ll never have to vote again”. That wasn’t just blither -
@mattblaze @bflipp @distractal
But since when did Trump think rules apply to him? He stated during the campaign he was going to rig elections so “you’ll never have to vote again”. That wasn’t just blither@OilersOrganGuy @bflipp @distractal if you aren’t interested in understanding how elections work, I’m probably not a good account to follow.
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