I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit.
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@UncoveredMyths Can I ask what you mean by a senses pass? I think I know, and do something similar, but I'd like to know your definition.
The five main senses, as well as the intuition. Sometimes I think about how the other characters perceive the situation to help me recognize sights, sounds, smells, and textures.
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The five main senses, as well as the intuition. Sometimes I think about how the other characters perceive the situation to help me recognize sights, sounds, smells, and textures.
@UncoveredMyths Gotcha! Thanks for explaining. Yeah, I do the same thing, because I tend to skim over a lot of that stuff in the first draft.
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
bear in mind I absolutely don't think an underwritten first draft is any better than an overwritten one, I was just doing a quick editing pass on the words I wrote yesterday and laughing at myself for how empty it is, in places.
one conversation in particular might as well have been taking place between two brains in jars communicating telepathically because I apparently did not include a single "stage direction".
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
@astronomerritt I'm definitely an underwriter but I just embrace the talking heads lol.
I'd say net I probably add words in the edit, but mostly structural or things I didn't explain. Line editing I cut even more lmao.
I think the fact that I handwrite has a lot to do with it too. Very laborious to be loquacious but it doesn't always stop me.
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
@astronomerritt I'm all over the map here. Some stuff drags and has to go; some stuff is empty talking heads that either needs to be cut or expanded. I also often write in short chunks, out-of-order, so sometimes I leave in unfinished sentences without even noticing...
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@astronomerritt I'm all over the map here. Some stuff drags and has to go; some stuff is empty talking heads that either needs to be cut or expanded. I also often write in short chunks, out-of-order, so sometimes I leave in unfinished sentences without even noticing...
@rr4idic I genuinely respect anyone with this sort of method. I have to write in an Orderly Fashion and I'm always fascinated by people who can write out-of-order.
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@rr4idic I genuinely respect anyone with this sort of method. I have to write in an Orderly Fashion and I'm always fascinated by people who can write out-of-order.
@astronomerritt I don't write that out-of-order -- on the large scale, I generally write going start to finish. It's just that within the span of a few paragraphs, I'm going back and forth and splicing bits together.
I often do this if there's a particular cool line I want to hit, writing that first, and then the preceding few paragraphs to get there.
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@astronomerritt I don't write that out-of-order -- on the large scale, I generally write going start to finish. It's just that within the span of a few paragraphs, I'm going back and forth and splicing bits together.
I often do this if there's a particular cool line I want to hit, writing that first, and then the preceding few paragraphs to get there.
@rr4idic Oooooh, I see! That makes sense. I don't think I could do this. I use the promise of getting to write the cool line to motivate me to write the bits leading up to it. Thanks for explaining!
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
@astronomerritt My early drafts are very concise. That needs to change for the story to make sense for anyone but me. The text grows sort of fractally along it whole length, gaining detail and dialogue and showing instead of telling.
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@astronomerritt My early drafts are very concise. That needs to change for the story to make sense for anyone but me. The text grows sort of fractally along it whole length, gaining detail and dialogue and showing instead of telling.
@ElyseMGrasso Oh, thatās interesting! Iād say mine still make sense, theyāre just very barebones. I like the concept of the text growing fractally.
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@astronomerritt I'm definitely an underwriter but I just embrace the talking heads lol.
I'd say net I probably add words in the edit, but mostly structural or things I didn't explain. Line editing I cut even more lmao.
I think the fact that I handwrite has a lot to do with it too. Very laborious to be loquacious but it doesn't always stop me.
@nebulos Respect for handwriting your drafts. I get terrible hand cramps so this isnāt an option for me. I used to take preemptive painkillers before written exams.
I absolutely think thereās times talking heads can work. Sometimes that dialogue can absolutely stand by itself.
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
@astronomerritt I usually end up with around the same word count. I mostly change things rather than adding or taking away.
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I feel like most writers I know end up cutting words from the draft when they edit. Do any writers reading this find that they tend to add words instead?
My first drafts are often pretty sparse. When I'm editing, I work out where I need to slow down a bit, set a scene, let the story breathe, give the reader a little bit more information.
As a person, I am... loquacious, let's say, but apparently this doesn't translate to my writing.
@astronomerritt
I tend to write very short and compactly, and either a story stays that short if it's OK that way, or I have to expand it and add what was missing to round it out. -
@astronomerritt
I tend to write very short and compactly, and either a story stays that short if it's OK that way, or I have to expand it and add what was missing to round it out.@petealexharris So are you saying that you find you need to add more actual story content to some of your drafts? Because thatās interesting. I generally have the right about of story content but not enough prose.
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@astronomerritt I usually end up with around the same word count. I mostly change things rather than adding or taking away.
@paranoiapen Youāre on the middle ground then! I hadnāt even considered that there might be folk who even out like that, though of course it makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
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@petealexharris So are you saying that you find you need to add more actual story content to some of your drafts? Because thatās interesting. I generally have the right about of story content but not enough prose.
@astronomerritt
Usually more prose, like extra or better description, lines of dialogue to make what was in my head clearer on the page.
But for novels, sometimes I need an entire new scene, because e.g. there was a change of character actions without showing a change of mental state or whatever justifying it. -
@astronomerritt
Usually more prose, like extra or better description, lines of dialogue to make what was in my head clearer on the page.
But for novels, sometimes I need an entire new scene, because e.g. there was a change of character actions without showing a change of mental state or whatever justifying it.@petealexharris Aha! Yes, this sounds very much like what I do in a second draft. I donāt usually have to add new scenes, but certainly a lot more prose. Thanks for explaining š
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