It's not war, it's a "major combat operation"?
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It's not war, it's a "major combat operation"?
Trump can't even come up with his own bullshit, has to steal Putin's homework.
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It's not war, it's a "major combat operation"?
Trump can't even come up with his own bullshit, has to steal Putin's homework.
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It's not war, it's a "major combat operation"?
Trump can't even come up with his own bullshit, has to steal Putin's homework.
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@rysiek honestly surprised they didn't go with blitzkrieg
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Nobody there
They upped sticks and fled weeks if not months ago
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@rysiek
Nobody there
They upped sticks and fled weeks if not months ago
That was the tell@spytfyre who fled from where
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It's not war, it's a "major combat operation"?
Trump can't even come up with his own bullshit, has to steal Putin's homework.
@rysiek The US hasn't actually declared war on anyone since early 1942. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Kosovo, Iraq again, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela, and this are all considered conflicts or combat actions.
They're limited by the War Powers Resolution of 1973, which I wouldn't be surprised if Trump violated again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
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@rysiek The US hasn't actually declared war on anyone since early 1942. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Kosovo, Iraq again, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela, and this are all considered conflicts or combat actions.
They're limited by the War Powers Resolution of 1973, which I wouldn't be surprised if Trump violated again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
@trebach oh I am not saying this is surprising or new.
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek Gotta give the British more credit, here. It wasn't merely “over oil”, it was specifically over British Petroleum's completely unfair monopoly in the region… hard to think of a clearer example of The Brits Are At It Again
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek Oil and psychopaths mix too well.
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek As expected, the USA has (so far) failed to visit consequence or prosecution on those involved. The clock is running out, one would hope they get to it. -
Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek I with we had an Alternate Historyscope that would tell is if the Iranian Revolution would have happened also under Mossadegh (or whoever would have followed him) rule. Several elements of the shah's “modernization” that pissed off the clergy were already present in Mossadeghism, but the clergy wouldn't have had the support of the left wing that they had in 1978 in our timeline.
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
We finally invented a name for international meddling, "Blowback".
When “Blowback” Is More Relevant Than Ever https://share.google/s5i1QMZQ2tqtKNnYS
Blowback : the costs and consequences of American empire : Johnson, Chalmers, 1931-2010 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive https://share.google/3khq0Bts3d3wtrk86
Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of... book by Chalmers Johnson https://share.google/OhiqqhcY9ahs8jqXJ -
Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek The US interfered a second time in the 70s - the left wing were rebelling against the Shah (Evin prison was set up to hold left wing political prisoners) so the US invested in training and weapons for the Islamic students who became the IRGC as it thought they'd be more pliant and less left wing -
@rysiek The US interfered a second time in the 70s - the left wing were rebelling against the Shah (Evin prison was set up to hold left wing political prisoners) so the US invested in training and weapons for the Islamic students who became the IRGC as it thought they'd be more pliant and less left wing@rysiek Whenever the future of Iran is brought up it's always portrayed as Muslim fundamentalist authoritatians Vs rich right wing authoritarians, as if there's nothing more to the country (or the diaspora)
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@rysiek Oil and psychopaths mix too well.
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Also a reminder that while the Iranian regime is undeniably horrible, it is also the result of CIA and MI6 instigating (in 1953) a coup d'état against the government of Iran that had a democratic mandate, over oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tatHere's the Wikipedia page about the prime minister of that government, Mohammad Mosaddegh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_MosaddeghThe coup made shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi an authoritarian monarch with US backing. His oppressive regime ended with the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
@rysiek To add on here, every country the U.S. government has attacked this year in some manner, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran all had nationalized western assets at one time or another. It's like these Wall Streeters have generational memories of who 'stole' from them.