Hmmm
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Anyways, I say this because floundering around wondering Oh No What Will Be Left serves nobody and nothing. We know there are ways through this, we just need to pick one, and then start building to that, and hope it's close enough to merge into what comes next. So fuck it. That's what I'll build to.
@glassbottommeg
Yeah this seems like the ineivtable end-conclusion to me, too.Like...
1. The internet has too much utility to ever go away
2. People don't like AI shit
3. People still want to find shitOk, so human curation it is! We were already seeing that in some areas where algorithms couldn't do a good job matching people to the content they want (IE, Steam games)
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@glassbottommeg
Yeah this seems like the ineivtable end-conclusion to me, too.Like...
1. The internet has too much utility to ever go away
2. People don't like AI shit
3. People still want to find shitOk, so human curation it is! We were already seeing that in some areas where algorithms couldn't do a good job matching people to the content they want (IE, Steam games)
@Maxnichols yep yep, or all the anime influencers out there filtering for The Good Ones any given season
Having too much content to keep up with, so hitching your tastes to someone who gets you, had already become the dominant way of filtering, so we just lean harder into that.
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Hmmm
I think the called hail-mary shot I'm gonna state is: AI destroys the algorithmic internet
We have a lot of curators (influencers), and there's no automated way of filtering it, therefore, we collapse to non-algorithmic platforms that are driven primarily by interconnected influencer networks
@glassbottommeg @matthewskelton there was a Neal Stephenson novel where this was the case - everyone had their own feed, for the rich they had a personal assistant whose job was to curate it. The not-rich picked a public aggregator
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Anyways, I say this because floundering around wondering Oh No What Will Be Left serves nobody and nothing. We know there are ways through this, we just need to pick one, and then start building to that, and hope it's close enough to merge into what comes next. So fuck it. That's what I'll build to.
@glassbottommeg that's what I've been saying too. Change won't happen unless we make it happen
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Anyways, I say this because floundering around wondering Oh No What Will Be Left serves nobody and nothing. We know there are ways through this, we just need to pick one, and then start building to that, and hope it's close enough to merge into what comes next. So fuck it. That's what I'll build to.
@glassbottommeg I think this is clear thinking and actually you already see it happening. I don't know to what degree but e.g. webrings and RSS are a bit more of a thing now
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Could I be wrong? Oh, sure, whatever, that's why it's fun to take called-shots this big
But it's the only way I can see out of this. Even after the AI bubble bursts, none of it goes away. So what still works? Social mesh networks, mostly. Mastodon or Bsky being current examples, but we'll see more.
@glassbottommeg the people are starving for authenticity in all things
which makes me all the more pissed off that I wasn't well enough to start some stuff when I wanted to 😢
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@glassbottommeg I think this is clear thinking and actually you already see it happening. I don't know to what degree but e.g. webrings and RSS are a bit more of a thing now
@PsySal @glassbottommeg I don't remember webrings being nearly this popular in the early aughts
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@glassbottommeg @matthewskelton there was a Neal Stephenson novel where this was the case - everyone had their own feed, for the rich they had a personal assistant whose job was to curate it. The not-rich picked a public aggregator
@glenjamin @glassbottommeg curation is always worth paying for 💡
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Anyways, I say this because floundering around wondering Oh No What Will Be Left serves nobody and nothing. We know there are ways through this, we just need to pick one, and then start building to that, and hope it's close enough to merge into what comes next. So fuck it. That's what I'll build to.
I even have the business-case justification for this end state: ads have been a nebulous to bad investment for uh, most of the last decade, but influencers are actually worth it
So a post-algorithm, curator-driven internet best serves the needs of those with money, meaning, it's one they'll also gravitate toward
(which is perhaps less aspirational, but hey)
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@PsySal @glassbottommeg I don't remember webrings being nearly this popular in the early aughts
@aeva @glassbottommeg Do you have any favorites? How does one get added? I do have a web 1.0 website with fun things on it. Or at least boring but not hostile things. I hope.
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@aeva @glassbottommeg Do you have any favorites? How does one get added? I do have a web 1.0 website with fun things on it. Or at least boring but not hostile things. I hope.
@PsySal @glassbottommeg i haven't really looked into it, i started noticing them a lot more in the last few years