You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

[greenpeace@mastodon.social]

You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

Solar and wind energy

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

[collectifission@greennuclear.online]

@greenpeace And nuclear energy. Works great for years on end without any imports.

[bill_halcyon1@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace if too many cargo ships are held up the Chinese solar arrays won't get delivered.

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?

This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@vnkr @greenpeace So, the game is blaming? It's not a pissing contest for blame. Regulatory issues, totally agree on that one. Recycling and energy capacity issues, also agree. Outdated current technology, maybe. But shouting who's to blame will not help us one inch further into a better battery solution. More money to science maybe.

Putting a stop to burning fuels...is ...currently....not ....globally ...possible.

[meema1616@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace Bull 💩

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@Meema1616 @greenpeace Proove me wrong based on science, the current geopolitics and with regard for lands use for global renewable energy compared to land use for foods if that's all you can post.

[meema1616@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace Follow the $$. The Petroleum Industry owns the world and they are NOT giving up all they reap from it! People need to push for more solar and wind. So this is a perfect opportunity for them too have their voices amplified!!

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace ah, you are right. Let's not mention it then. Just keep using oil.

The comment was designed to provoke a thought that perhaps there's a better way of powering out lives. But alas, not currently possible. Dismissed :)

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.

I’d rather see them pressuring governments. I’m all for that.

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace
Here's a good video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

[meema1616@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace You ask for science and I return with ecological advantage. Solar panels produce zero greenhouse gases (GHGs) like carbon dioxide during operation.
A single residential system can offset approximately 100,000 pounds of carbon over 20 years, equivalent to planting over 100 trees annually.
Long term the distribution of solar or wind gives this planet a longer life. Lining pockets of petroleum billionaires not so much.

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace only common people together can do anything. Governments won't do shit if not pushed from below.
And making common people think about these topics is the first step into making some of them act.

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I feel Greenpeace is barking at the wrong tree, we all, myself included, do want a change in energy use. But we already know that. It still is a process, which takes time, more than we want but still it does. Amplifying a message is nice, playing along the policy way to change it is better. They should TALK more and invest in the science communication of it to pursuade them.

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace governments absolutely need to do that. But they won't do that if we don't tell them it needs to be done.

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@vnkr @Meema1616 @greenpeace I haven’t met many governments that listened to their citizens unfortunately. 🫤

[meema1616@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace I will continue the conversation but will ALWAYS PUSH FOR A CLEAN AIR PLANET SURVIVAL STRATEGY. Sorry my caps lock stayed on. 🤦‍♀️ Billionaires have had their day dictating how I live. I’m a loud and proud planet advocate 👍

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.