I have to admit, the performance of a Chromium-based browser compared to Firefox is abysmal.

[gargron@mastodon.social]

@tachan If I had to use #LibreWolf I feel like I would have to undo all of the "tweaks". Doesn't the browser delete all cookies by default when you close it?

[tachan@mastodon.social]

@Gargron It does, unless you white-list the ones you want to keep.

[gargron@mastodon.social]

@tachan Right. This kind of default tells me the people who make that browser don't use the web like a normal person, so we'll always be at odds with each other.

[kalenxi@mastodon.social]

@Gargron Vivaldi is the only Chromium browser I've experienced that on. It definitely feels like the most bloated. I've been using Helium but it doesn't support DRM so no Netflix but otherwise it's the lightest and fastest Chromium browser I've tried.

[curdriceaurora@mastodon.social]

@Gargron LibreWolf is right there no?

[gargron@mastodon.social]

@curdriceaurora See other comments.

[dukeduke@mastodon.social]

@Gargron I use Vivaldi as my secondary (surf crap sites) browser, at the same time FF is handling my 'good' traffic. I have a number of UI quibbles with Vivaldi, but the most annoying thing is that it randomly locks tab creation. In order to open a new tab, I have to reboot the browser, then continue on as before. Happens about once per week.

[grishka@friends.grishka.me]

My own experience is opposite — Firefox doesn't feel as smooth as Vivaldi. But I'm also kinda privileged because I have way too much RAM :D

[amirbkhan@mastodon.social]

@Gargron @tachan you’re more in control and aware of your settings this way. How is this a problem?

I’m using #Librewolf for months now and am very happy with it.

[crazyeddie@mastodon.social]

@Gargron LibreWolf is firefox based, doesn't currently have AI, and supports uBlock (I think it may come by default but I install it a weird way so I'm not sure).

Can't tell you about the rest of it. Not sure if it not having AI is just a face thing or not, but I never have to look at it (except it's in all the search engines now too and librewolf clears preferences that turn it off by default).

[driusan@doomscroller.social]

@Gargron@mastodon.social I've been using Vivaldi for a long time, and whenever I have to use Firefox for one reason or another my reaction is "wow, this is so fast. It's a pity it's so badly managed."

So approaching it from the other side--the answer to your question is yes.

[keltounet@mastodon.social]

@Gargron still on Firefox here, same experience with Chrome, memory management is abysmal

[bearofroses@mastodon.social]

@Gargron what do you think about ecosia?

[groupnebula563@mastodon.social]

@Gargron I will say it’s far better compared to normal chrome or even chromium, so they have done *some* optimization. would love to see it adopt an alternative engine like Servo once that becomes viable for usage!

[transicorn@mastodon.social]

@Gargron Firefox imo is still great, provided you choose a fork that removes the things you don't want or need. Librewolf's been my daily driver for years and it works great.

https://librewolf.net/

[scottytrees@mastodon.social]

@Gargron I keep it even simpler than this. I use the browser that uBlock devs recommend. And it's been Firefox every time.

[the_wub@mastodon.social]

@teohhanhui @Gargron The last straw for me was when Mozilla started building in infrastructure into Firefox to allow them to serve us users their ads rather than Google's et al.

Now we hear that Firefox is going to be a modern AI browser.

Some of Vivaldi must be open source but even if none of it is at least they have stated clearly that Vivaldi development does not include adding AI features.

Closed source + no AI vs FOSS + AI.

We all have to make our own choices in the end.

[the_wub@mastodon.social]

@Gargron I cannot really compare as I use Vivaldi as my primary browser with lots of tabs left open.

I use LibreWolf differently normally in private browsing mode for searches, route planning or reading the news.

Especially where a website makes you choose between accepting tracking or logging in.

I have other browsers installed for single uses - Chromium for Wire IM and nothing else.

I have noticed that the Helium browser (not using Helium services) feels much faster than Chromium.

[solitha@mastodon.social]

@Gargron Huh. I open a bunch of tabs first thing each morning (like 90+ in one window and some fewer in another) and Vivaldi is MUCH faster than FF ever was.

[teohhanhui@mastodon.social]

@the_wub @Gargron The ads in Firefox can be turned off. The AI features can also be turned off. Yes, it's annoying that they're focused on such things that do not benefit the user whatsoever, but Firefox is still the best way to help fight the Chromium / Blink monopoly.