@glyph Did you quote post something?
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@astraluma I don't think any of it narrativizes quite that precisely and neatly, and it depends exactly where you were and what you were doing at the time, but, in general, I think, "yes"
@glyph @astraluma Twice, arguably - in the mid 19th century slowdown, and the late 19th/early 20th century slowdown. (The industrial revolution had a couple waves, where new technologies got picked up, dramatically changed some industry/industries, then growth slowed down once they had become widespread, with
things like steam engines, trains, and telegraphs, early on, mass steel production, electricity, and standardized parts & assembly lines in the later wave) -
@glyph @astraluma Twice, arguably - in the mid 19th century slowdown, and the late 19th/early 20th century slowdown. (The industrial revolution had a couple waves, where new technologies got picked up, dramatically changed some industry/industries, then growth slowed down once they had become widespread, with
things like steam engines, trains, and telegraphs, early on, mass steel production, electricity, and standardized parts & assembly lines in the later wave)@glyph @astraluma but then damn near an entire generation died in a war, and shortly after did it again, so it's a bit less clear in that period what was "We ran out of new big things" and what was "We ran out of able bodied men to use the new things." until you get into the more contemporary period...
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@glyph I take him at the persona he presents to us, Big Joel™.
Comedy answer: Mike
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@glyph …you’re gonna make a blog post version of this, yeah
*puppy eyes emoji*
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@glyph …you’re gonna make a blog post version of this, yeah
*puppy eyes emoji*
@genehack really trying to keep the blog to <50% whinging about AI, as I feel like this is a crowded field at the moment, but perhaps it'll consume one of those slots soon :)
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@genehack really trying to keep the blog to <50% whinging about AI, as I feel like this is a crowded field at the moment, but perhaps it'll consume one of those slots soon :)
@glyph I understand the ratio management, totes, but you may need to dial down the insights then.
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@glyph I understand the ratio management, totes, but you may need to dial down the insights then.
@glyph *ahem* dial down the insights (complimentary), that is.
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@glyph I take him at the persona he presents to us, Big Joel™.
Comedy answer: Mike
@2WaterGuns but sometimes big joel is also little joel, which is confusing
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@glyph *ahem* dial down the insights (complimentary), that is.
@genehack I appreciate that they've been useful and I will probably keep on doing them until they're not, but I've been in the unfortunate position at a few times in my career of needing to simply repeat the same obvious (or at least, obvious to me) "insight" to an audience of people whose jobs depended, in some degree, on not really understanding what I was saying. the combination of getting praised for being intelligent and correct while nothing changes is a recipe for personal stagnation
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@genehack I appreciate that they've been useful and I will probably keep on doing them until they're not, but I've been in the unfortunate position at a few times in my career of needing to simply repeat the same obvious (or at least, obvious to me) "insight" to an audience of people whose jobs depended, in some degree, on not really understanding what I was saying. the combination of getting praised for being intelligent and correct while nothing changes is a recipe for personal stagnation
@genehack if I wanted to do this and *not* stagnate I'd need to really up my research skills and I don't have the fortitude to do what David Gerard or Molly White do with significant amounts of actual research every day; that degree of abyss-gazing is too much psychic damage-over-time to withstand :)
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@genehack I appreciate that they've been useful and I will probably keep on doing them until they're not, but I've been in the unfortunate position at a few times in my career of needing to simply repeat the same obvious (or at least, obvious to me) "insight" to an audience of people whose jobs depended, in some degree, on not really understanding what I was saying. the combination of getting praised for being intelligent and correct while nothing changes is a recipe for personal stagnation
@glyph ALWAYS prioritize your own well being. Period, full stop.
2nd, I have said that one part of leadership is repeating the same thing over and over again until you’re past sick of hearing it.
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@glyph ALWAYS prioritize your own well being. Period, full stop.
2nd, I have said that one part of leadership is repeating the same thing over and over again until you’re past sick of hearing it.
@glyph that’s not quite the same thing as “to an audience that actively needs to not hear it”, to be fair, but I think that’s a matter of degree, not kind.
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@glyph that’s not quite the same thing as “to an audience that actively needs to not hear it”, to be fair, but I think that’s a matter of degree, not kind.
@genehack hmmmmmm you make an interesting point here about repetition, one that I have brushed up on in various discussions of sprachspiel. a good antithesis to my thesis, will need to contemplate the synthesis!
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@genehack hmmmmmm you make an interesting point here about repetition, one that I have brushed up on in various discussions of sprachspiel. a good antithesis to my thesis, will need to contemplate the synthesis!
@glyph the other version of that I’ve used is, “if you think you’re saying the same thing too much, that’s probably about the right amount”.
(May have stolen that from somebody, maybe…)
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@glyph it is curious, to me, that this kind of money doesn’t chase massive infrastructure investments, such as pumped storage, grid infrastructure, or expanding companies in the supply chain. One would imagine predictable and reliable returns with a need for capital to make it happen.
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@glyph it is curious, to me, that this kind of money doesn’t chase massive infrastructure investments, such as pumped storage, grid infrastructure, or expanding companies in the supply chain. One would imagine predictable and reliable returns with a need for capital to make it happen.
@benjohn those companies are profitable, but vulnerable to competitive pressures (i.e.: capitalism) which will reduce margins over time, rather than having a “moat” (illegal but unprosecutable monopoly due to intellectual property law) to defend their margins permanently. nobody hates capitalism more than a capitalist
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@glyph I know his real name is Henry, but I learned that after watching him for years. Never gonna overwrite Joel in my brain
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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
@glyph The troubling aspect to me is the question about labor power and the way the models are produced. If it is truly possible to reimplement a complex parser in a new language for 1MW/h and one developer month that seems like a good trade. The amount of security related churn and heartache that could be avoided by rewriting popular libraries away from memory-unsafe languages, that's a substantial benefit. I doubt it's quite that easy or it would be happening in more cases though.
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@GroupNebula563 @AlsoCrowie my point was that only any drained or evaporated water is actually used up. Anything in a cooling pipe is constant and stable for years
@RichiH @GroupNebula563 @AlsoCrowie it seems they are not using closed circuits. And the water may not be suitable for consumption after they used it.